Bigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4075 posts, RR: 55 Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2201 times:
Yesterday I happened to catch the tail end of a departure at LGA. It didn't have the volume of most fighets, and it looked like it had two engines and one tail. It's smaller size eliminated the F-111 Aardvark as a possibility, so I'm going to say it was an F-20 (Tigershark?).
Anyone know why I've been seeing fighers at LGA lately? I saw a F-18 a few weeks ago right after Memorial Day.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2097 times:
To put it simply, the F-20 does not exist, not in flyable form anyways. The T-38 would be the one aircraft that is currently in service in the US that matches your description.The only other fighters matching your description would be the likes of the Tornado, Rafale, Typhoon, MiG-19, F-4, F-5 etc. Basically, these are either not in service or in service with forces outside of North America. The one exception may be the F-5, is it still used for agressor simulations or something? I understand the F-4 is also being used for some non combat purposes by a facility somewhere in the US.
AA727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 124 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2028 times:
I have a question along these lines too. I saw (5?) F/A-18 two seaters parked across the ramp at one of the FBOs here in OMA. Does anyone have an idea of why they would be here? I couldn't make out the base they were stationed at, so any info would be great!
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
To help answer some of these questions from above:
-The F-20 existed as one flyable jet, but the DoDs pick of the F-16 ended any hopes of export for the F-20 and it has since been scrapped.
-NASA has several T-38s. A majority are based in Houston at Ellington Field, for astronaut training (they have the Vomit Comet there and WB-57s also).
-The US does fly F-5s as aggresors at Fallon NAS for the Navy and sometimes Nellis AFB for the Air Force weapons school.
-The USAF flies QF-4 pilotless drones out of Tyndall AFB in Panama City, FL, and also a detachment at Holloman in NM, along with the German AF training wing there.
- Planes divert often, and sometimes to Civilian fields. Also many civilian fields have dual use Air Guard facilities. With Operation Noble Eagle still going strong you will see jets over major cities. This is no secret you can view such news on the Air Forces webpage.
What you saw probably was a T-38C, do you know what color the plane was?
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Lt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate
Sllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1990 times:
Actually, the F-20's were involved in crashes, I thought. Or at least one.
F-20's were also single engine, using an F404 engine (same engine the F-18 uses two of).
To clarify Lt-AWACS, what killed the F-20 was that the US government decied to allow export sales of the F-16 to South Korea, Egypt, and other countries that at one time were not going to be allowed the F-16. Northrop continued to push the F-20 as a much less expensive alternative to the F-16, but in the end, all the potential customers dried up.
Navion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1002 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1979 times:
There were 3 F-20's built and 2 of them crashed due to G-LOC, otherwise known as G-Induced Loss of Consciousness. 2 of Northrop's top test pilots were killed in these crashes including (I hope I'm remembering this right) Darrell Cornell, a very well known and accomplished pilot. I hope this link works which is the information on one of the crashes.
Jcxp15 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 997 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1807 times:
I saw a couple of fighters at GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA last time I was out there... I believe they were F-15's, but not 100% sure as they were really far away... But the F15 does have 2 engines next to each other... Also, it is unlikely that the Navy would keep it's F18/A's there, as I believe those the USAF has primary charge should anything happen.. They can be scrambled within minutes... I'll be flying out of GA / KLGA), USA - New York">LGA tomorrow, and when I last saw the military fighters, they were over there by the "GA" terminal just past the Delta Shuttle gates... I'll try to see if they are still there tomorrow...
Here are some F-15's, hopefully that I'll be flying one day...
Jcxp15 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 997 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1697 times:
Could the F/A-18's been here for Fleet Week? I really don't think they keep them at LGA for an extended period of time, because the planes I saw at LGA definately did not look like F/A-18's... I'm not certain that there are F15's there, but that was the best guess I could make out... They definately were not F-16's, and didn't look to be F/A-18's, so I went with the 15's.. I'll let you know if I see them tomorrow..
If you go down to the dock, or probably even better to the rock, you should be able to see them parked all the way over past RWY4 left of RWY13... as I think you're on a good enough angle taht the terminal won't block the view..
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1541 times:
The Nearest F-15s to NYC are the MASS Air Guards out of Otis. In my many orbits over NYC and DC I've talked to them, and it is on their website. Langley AFB is your next closest base with F-15Cs that fly those CAPs. When F-16s are used, or F-18s there are bases to numerous to mention.
To Clarify from Above, the USAF only had one YF-20 in its inventory, versus the 3 listed, it was struck from the record after a short time
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Lt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate