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Airtran 737NG And 717 Order?  
User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

What do you think? If Airtran orders the 737NG (or the A32X) will they also take more 717-200's (or even 300's)?
I have heard several rumours that this could happen...

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User currently offlineL1011Fan From United States of America, joined May 2003, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

I'd love to see them be the launch customer for the 717-300. I doubt they'll buy a 736 but a 737-700 seems feasible too. Puhleeze no Airbus' though...

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

Probably more 712's and a new order for 738's. IMHO.

Not sure if Boeing would build a 713 (717-300) just for AirTran even with a sizeable order.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

Even if they did build them a 717-300, it would be of insufficient range.

N


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

The 717-300 could be attractive for airlines such as Delta that would fit nice between the MD-80 and the 732/3s

AA for something between the MD-80 and the Fokker 100

Northwest for the DC-9-50


User currently offlineMrLineGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

As much as I would like to see a 717-300 it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. The 717-300 would only be an increase in capacity with little if any increase in range. With this order, AirTran is looking at range predominantly so as to be able to run from ATL - West Coast non-stop. The 737-700 seems like the likely candidate for this order, as it has pretty much what AirTran is looking for in terms of range, reliability, and capacity. A320's are entirely possible, but my sources are telling me that the 737-700 appears to be in the lead. The 717-300 would complement the 717-200 nicely, allowing AirTran added capacity to such cities as MCO, FLL, TPA and such, but again, the 717-300 isn't one of Boeing's top priorities, even with a substantial order from FL. My belief is that this order will consist of 50 737NG/A320 and 25 717-200 with options for each. The next couple of weeks could be very interesting here at AirTran!!

Regards,

Kevin
AirTran
MDW Customer Service Agent



More right rudder...
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5499 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

I've heard rumors as well giving the edge to the 737NG over A32X. Only time will tell.

User currently offlineJmhLUV2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

As I tried to post twice on this forum.....AirTran IS going with the 737-800
I saw the parking mark in ATL gate c4 today...the eveidence is there.
JMH


User currently offlinePgh234 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Jmh...didn't Airtran have a relationship with Miami Air recently where they flew 738's to Miami for them? Maybe those parking marks were there from that era so that Miami Air could use AirTran's gates in ATL?

pgh234


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

Does Air Tran still have 737-200s in its fleet?

I saw an at this job placement place looking for mechanics for Air Tran and said they prefered someone with experience on DC-9s and 737s. If they no longer had any in their fleet, why would they need someone with experience on 737s then?


User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

Kevin,

Corey knows what is going on, although he'll deny it. Tell him Nate says "whats up" and if he's ever gonna come back to FLL...

-n


User currently offlineMrLineGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

Nate,

I'll have to annoy him so I can get some insider info!! LOL Looks like Corey is going to stay up here in Chicago for a while, he is the (new) station manager. I'll tell him when I see him on Thursday! Do you work for FL in FLL?

Regards,

Kevin
AirTran
MDW Customer Service Agent



More right rudder...
User currently offlineRumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

Airtran still has a 737-200. I think 464AT(not sure). It is in storage in the desert. It has been there for a while. They are keeping just in case they get the 737NGs. So they don't have to do proving runs again.

To add to the rumorville I have also heard 737NGs(don't know which ones) the 700 or 800 and more 717s. Possibility of a 717-300.

We will probably know very soon.


User currently offlineHeavymx1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

Yes FL still has 1 lonely 737-200. I really hope they go with the -700 or -800, but I have been hearing airbus out the waazooo at work. But this is the airline industry so I'll believe it when i see it. kevin


I am better than you because I live on an Island
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

Kevin ~~

Poor Corey went through what I did at Great Lakes... a new city every quarter! He was down here for a few months before Ruth (who looks JUST LIKE PRINCESS DIANA, no joke!) took control. I was setting up the FLL station for my airline at the time and worked closely w/ Corey and his staff on all of our reaccoms and so forth. FL has a great staff down here in FLL... very outgoing and fun. I think I have 1/2 of their phone numbers in my cell!

Corey is on the 'move' per se... he was extreme upper management at Vanguard, FYI  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I doubt he'll be a station manager for much longer.. I expect him to be in Orlando within 2 years...

-n


User currently offlineM717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

"As I tried to post twice on this forum.....AirTran IS going with the 737-800
I saw the parking mark in ATL gate c4 today...the eveidence is there."


And as I have explained many times before, the company has indicated an interest in the 737-700, due to several factors. Besides, one mark at one gate does not make for concrete "evidence". By the time the new aircraft arrive sometime next year, the parking marks will need to be repainted...again.

In any event, this question will be answered in a week or so. As for me, personally I hope they do go with the -800. More $$$ for me.


User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4077 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

All I have to say about Airtran getting 737s is this; BLENDED WINGLETS!!!


Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

"As I tried to post twice on this forum.....AirTran IS going with the 737-800
I saw the parking mark in ATL gate c4 today...the eveidence is there."

I remember prior to American flying 737-800s to IAH they painted the markings on the apron as well; therefore your point is valid. However, I believe that the other poster was right, that was more likely for the Miami Air 737-800s used from time to time.



Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Yeah the painting on the tarmac is a good sign.

I went to DTW for the Northwest Midfield terminal at their open house and I noticed painting on the tarmac for A330 and 757-300 long before they even took their first 753. Although, both planes had been officially ordered by then.


User currently offlineM717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

ONE mark on ONE gate means nothing. Besides, I believe there would be no difference in the placement of the nosewheel when parking a 737-700 or -800. The difference is further back....like the length of the fuselage. Not from the nosewheel to the fwd door.

But this whole discussion is really moot. Wait a week or two, and you will have all the answers.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

Using the painting on the tarmac logic, DL also is about to launch A330 and 747-400 service.

N


User currently offlineGroundStop From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Reading the past few posts about AirTran has inspired me to register as I work for us at ATL. I couldn't help wanting to clear up some things.

"Jmh...didn't Airtran have a relationship with Miami Air recently where they flew 738's to Miami for them? Maybe those parking marks were there from that era so that Miami Air could use AirTran's gates in ATL? "

While we did have a relationship with Miami Air, the markings referred to have been painted within the last 7-10 days at Gates C-4, C-14, C-17, C-20, and at least one other I am forgetting. There are markings for 717/DC9, A-320, and 737-800. I believe its more of a "just in case" move as opposed to a "let the cat out of the bag" move.

"Using the painting on the tarmac logic, DL also is about to launch A330 and 747-400 service."

If you are referring to Concourse E at ATL, most if not all widebody gates on that Concourse have hash-marks for several equipment types. Delta is the primary user of E, not the owner. Several carriers use several different gates based on operational demands.

I look forward to the insight offered by this forum as well as offerring my two cents from time to time.

James

AirTran CSS


User currently offlineHeavymx1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

I agree with James. I work for FL in BWI and our gates were just repainted and the have marks for the 717/DC9, 737/A319/20, 757/A321. I only wish the logic of if its painted on the line they must be flying it was true. We would really be pumping then, by the marks at bwi airtran must fly basically every new generation aircraft. kevin


I am better than you because I live on an Island
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 23, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Could it also be if you ever sub lease the gates for say a charter operator to use, you now have the lines painted and ready to go?


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

if you are a good marshaller you can just 'eye' it *lol* :P

25 M717 : Or the airports in this country could move into this (or the last) century, and have the automated light guidance systems prevalent in Europe. No mars
26 LGB Photos : I heard that Airtran did not want the A320 or 737NG's because they are heavy and cost more to operate than the 717.
27 Gigneil : But they've made it clear that they DO want one, since they want a transcontinental aircraft. N
28 LGB Photos : That is where the 717-300 could fit in.
29 Gigneil : I don't think so. Boeing has already said publically that any 717-300, if people were other than Airtran were to order it, would not have a greater ra
30 Post contains images SegmentKing : Maybe AirTran should order the ERJ145XLR -n
31 Elwood64151 : For all of you talking about Corey at MDW, tell him Fred from NJ&FL at MCI says "hi." He was a rising star at NJ before it went under. Started as a CS
32 Post contains images Brons2 : I think AirTran should buy 75 used MD-83's (just kidding)
33 IAHERJ : "Maybe Airtran should order the ERJ-145-XLR" NO!! Please, I just finished training on the 717 after almost 5 years of Embraer 120/135/145(ER)(LR) and
34 Srbmod : The contract AirTran currently has with its pilots covers only one additional a/c type over the 717 and DC-9: the 737-700. The additional markings cou
35 Travatl : I agree completely with Srbmod.... Travis/8 year AirTran employee.
36 M717 : "The contract AirTran currently has with its pilots covers only one additional a/c type over the 717 and DC-9: the 737-700." Not true. Our contract co
37 BR715-A1-30 : Guys, can we give it a rest and wait for the official announcement. We have been barking over this bone for the past 6 months. What makes you guys thi
38 Flyer732 : the decision is most likely already made, and everything points towards an announcement later this month.
39 Post contains images SegmentKing : Elwood, Drop him a line. He checks his e-mail in his sleep :P I drop by his office @ MDW everytime I'm through there and have time... -n
40 GroundStop : "(so far, I've only seen the A320 parked on C-14 and C-20, with it mainly being parked at C-20). " The primary gates for the Airbus operations are C-1
41 Elwood64151 : Segmentking: I would, but I don't have his addy. Still say I expect him to move up at FL, soon to Corporate Officer level...
42 LGB Photos : Gigneil: Actually the 717-300 will have more range and they are more than 75% the way to an announcement.
43 Flyer732 : "Grand Bahama operations which have historically been operated from C-17 or C-17A will soon be shifting to C-15 to free up the 17's for the 'bus. " Al
44 Gigneil : LGB Photos- Really? Where did you come by this information that's contrary to Boeing's announcements? And what sense does a 717-300 with more range ma
45 Rumorboy : Gigneil You probably find out a lot of answers to your questions next week.
46 LGB Photos : Gigneil - from a 717 program manager
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