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EWR-DUS On An A319?...confused  
User currently offlineTwalives From United States of America, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 6
Posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

I need some help here because I am totally confused with what I am finding on the Lufthansa Web site. I was searching for a business class ticket from SA - New Jersey">EWR to DUS and came up with flight LH409 operated by Privatair SA in an A319?

Is this a mistake on the site? Am I reading it incorrectly? Or is there actually scheduled SA - New Jersey">EWR-DUS on an A319? If so, how does the partnership work between Privatair and Lufthansa?



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User currently offlineJonnyGT From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

All business class flight on a Boeing Business Jet (BBJ). Quit a cool little flight. I saw the BBJ at EWR the last time I was in town.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2708 times:
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It is an all Business class I believe 48 seats in total that is operated by Privatair as a LH flight!


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

Are the prices higher! And, how's the route doing??

co


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2688 times:
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No priced like similar Business class prices and doing very well from what I have read. Look for more of these in the future from what I have read.


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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2682 times:

The route is going quite nicely. It was started about a year or so ago with one BBJ from Privatair. Because of the succes more routes like this have been started. I believe there are now 3 Biz-only flights operated by Privatair. They now use both the BBJ and the ACJ.

With regard to prices, these flights only have a business class. As such you will have to pay for a business class seat. If you want to fly to Dusseldorf cheap(ish) you can better fly economy class to Frankfurt or Schiphol and from there take another flight or the high speed train to Dusseldorf.



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User currently offlineTWA@FRA From China, joined Nov 2000, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

lh offered this service also from duesseldort to chicago , and they are thinking about more possible routes with bizjet, also privat air had offered this service to other airlines for other routes but till now only lh used it (correct me if i`m wrong)

User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

Thought that Privatair were getting some A319's (the one thats the private jet thingy) too in the all business config.........sure I read that on here somewhere.....

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2668 times:
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Leezyjet

You are correct about the 319's tho I am not sure they are flying those right now to the USA.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
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One of the airline review magazines had a real good article about the first flight and relationship between the 2 companies. If you want to know the magazine and date I can locate it for you.


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User currently offlineTwalives From United States of America, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Thanks for all of the info, it is a really cool niche they are filling with this concept.

User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Just checked tomorrow's flight, LH408 DUS-EWR A319 1000am arrive 1230pm with a return same day on LH 409 EWR-DUS 440pm arive 615am A319 and fare is USD3982.40 roundtrip.

MUC-EWR-MUC is operated by B737BBJ.

Michael


User currently offlinePaulianer From Germany, joined Jul 2002, 875 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

One of them is already in a.net database


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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2543 times:


They actually also sell economy tix on these flights, but only in unrestricted Y fare class. Might as well shell out 50 bucks more for C...

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineVermeer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 447 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

I fly frequently the dus-ewr: first with the 737-700 ( with the wing of the -800) and now with the 319.

All that has been said it's true, 48 seats all biz class with blue leather chairs on the 737 ( very similar to the BA"s cradle seat) with 55' to 60' pitch while the 319 has grey leather interiors.

I will fly the ewr- muc in two weeks again, this time with the 737.

Loads are good but not exceptional, speaking with my friends at LH the occupancy is around 65 to 70% on average.

trye, they accept economy passengers with published Y fares, and all business class fares ( D and C).

Service is really great, friendly and professional. Food is the regular LH biz menu served on LH crockery but with some extra touches such as espresso served with First china from LH.
No PTV but individual players with LH first class selection of movies, documentaries etc.
The F/A's are extraordinary, truly personalizing the service ( i.e.: going around the plane with the manifest and greeting personally all *gold and senators and calling EACH passenger by name for the entire flight).
It is a really great way to fly: no congerstions at the airport, no waiting in line at check ins or lounge-waiting room, extra quick boarding and deplaning and almost non existent line at immigration once on arrival.
The cabin is quiet and it provides a very soothing effect on the entire flight, seems like a small club in the air.
The small planes are just a little slower than their big brothers and sisters.
last week while LH 403 flying EWR - FRA had a scheduled flying time of 6 hours and 20 minutes with a 744 the MUC bound 413 had a cool 8 hours 5 minutes with the smaller 737. ( which passengers really don't mind because they can SLEEP - at least I DON'T MIND...)
Another complaint passenger have is the lack of power outlet for their PC's. I don't care, as much as there is champagne flowing.
HIC!


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

EWR-MUC BBJ
EWR-DUS A319


And isn't there another PrivateAir/LHR route, to ORD perhaps?



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2453 times:
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NO not yet! Unless BA or AA did it I can not imagine it being able to operate out of LHR! Maybe LGW tho.


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User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

I did not mean to write LHR, I meant LH as in Lufthansa.


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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Yes, ORD-DUS A319.

Michael


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Yeah... its not an ACJ, but its also not a regular 319.

It's a 319LR.

N


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