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User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 747 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2731 times:

To the best of my knowledge, United Airlines has never served Montreal. Although they now codeshare with AC, United Airlines itself has never had scheduled flights into Montreal. All other major US Airlines: American, Delta, Northwest, US Airways have scheduled service to Montreral, and have had for quite some time. Any reason why UA never dipped into the Montreal market? Just curious ....

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User currently offlineCrank From Canada, joined May 2001, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

United has recently started flying to Montreal from ORD, and soon if I'm not mistaken, they will operate IAD-YUL.

User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

Correct, Crank--IAD-YUL is to be a CRJ.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

UA's primary hub has always been ORD. AC has had YUL-ORD flights for years, and AA added YUL-ORD around 1990.....the market was probably not big enough for 3 carriers.

UA's other hubs (SFO and DEN) would not be able to support at most 1 daily YUL flight likely. Witness AC's short term trial with YUL-SFO/DEN.

Hence, UA's specific hub network precluded any YUL presence.

Incidently, AA is relatively new to YUL (mid-to-late 80's) as is NW.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

However, that's technically just United Express.
I guess united mainline doesn't have much of a reason to fly there with AC already having flights to most UA hubs and such.



Next flight.... who knows.
User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Is Air Canada doing the ground handling for UA at YUL, or does United have their own staff there?

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

United does not have any staff at YUL. There's no UA or ACA personnel to do ticketing so no one can issue MPI ticktets there, for example. AC will resissue regular revenue tickets.

The777Man



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User currently offlineSkywatcher From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 460 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

The new UA express CRJ service (ORD-YUL) is 3 times daily and started a month or two ago.
AA has 5 daily flights on the route (mostly F-100) while AC has 4 (mostly A-319 I believe).


User currently offlineYHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

YUL-ORD with AA started well before the mid 1990's. In the 80's, it was being operated with the morning flight (about a 9:20am departure) being a DC10 that continued onto Hawaii. AA started into YUL at least in the 70's. There are photos of their 707's at YUL in the Airliners.net database.

Dave


User currently offlineFDH From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

AA serves YUL since at least 1980. I recall seeing AA DC-10 and B-720 in YUL.
NW began its YUL service later. However, Republic Airlines, which was bought by NW, was already serving YUL for some time.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4994 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Indeed..Republic was serving Montreal for at least 25 years, my buddy at work Paride was working for them... all his gear is Republic logos all over it.

mark


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

I have an AA timetable from 1981 that shows no YUL service. So perhaps AA pulled out for a while. I do recall some fanfare in the mid-to-late 80's when AA added YUL (again I guess).

As for NW, that's true....they inherited the Republic routes but had no NW service prior to the Republic takeover in 1986.

Neil



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1802 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

Here are some AA pics at YUL in 1979:

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1980:

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1982:

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Looks like 1981 was the lone year AA didn't serve YUL. Can that be?


User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 747 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Here is an American DC-10 at YUL in 1979. From my schedules, I know AA had flown DC-10s between YUL- ORD (of and on) until at least 1990.


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User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Montreal was one of the eight or so cities American added to its route system right after deregulation. I believe January 25, 1979 was the starting date for those new services, which was American's biggest one-day non-merger expansion up to that point.

User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1639 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

AA never started and left but it did fly the LGA run for a short while before it was moved over to Delta.. So technically they started and stopped YUL-LGA. They also switched onto the Miami run from Delta as well. The open skys agreement and alliance networks realigned a lot of US routes and the airlines flying them from Montreal.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2177 times:

YUL-LGA was originally with EA. The it must have moved to AA then DL.

Yup, I just checked again. My paper AA timetable for summer 81 shows no YUL.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineQuebecair727 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Hi Yyz717,

I am surprised your timetable does not show any YUL flights. I remember that AA moved in not long after the move from YUL to YMX of all international airlines. Furthermore, the picture of a DC10 above shows a DC10 and a 707 or 720 at YUL in 1979. I am not saying that you are wrong when you say that your timetable does not show YUL flights but I must say I am a little confused. This is something worth investigating about.


User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1639 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

I'm a bit surprised too. I'm 100% sure American never came and went in totality. I don't remember when they started YUL service, perhaps it was the early 80s. It's not been that long. They always flew YUL-ORD from the start but did operate a flight to San Juan (also from YYZ) for one winter season and also an LAX flight through YYZ for one summer season. LGA came after Eastern's demise as YYZ717 said but after a few months it was eventually awarded to Delta. The MIA run came after Delta gave up both FLL and MIA service from Montreal presumably to realign their alliance hub connections along with American's. The switch fitted both their needs. DFW is the latest run and is still operating.

Unfortunately United mainline has never flown here although it is nice to see United Express jets at Dorval now. Perhaps UA might join them on the ORD run over time but only if demand picks up. It's not really a triple airline route however.

Doug


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

The YYZ-SJU and YUL-SJU began in 1987 or 88 and lasted only about 6 months.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
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