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DL Announces CVG-HNL N/s Always A Surprise  
User currently offlineAtcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

This industry always surprises me!

Delta just announced non-stop service from CVG to HNL, daily with 767-400s departing CVG at 1pm.

The return leaves HNL at 8:40pm and arrives CVG at 9:50am.

Did anyone see this coming. These guys are always announcing things that surprise me.

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User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

This isn't that shocking to me. Delta flights to HNL are almost always full. While it is true that a large percentage of those seats are Frequent Flier seats, Delta does actually sell some seats on those flights. Adding additional capacity to HNL helps improve its frequent flier offering. In addition, CVG is Delta's 2nd largest hub and Comair's largest operation. This gives one more easy 1-stop connection for people throughout the NE and Midwest to HNL.

User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

It's not scheduled to start until 01NOV. We shall see if it ever leaves the ground. CVG-FCO was planned but did not.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

DL’s options for getting to HNL for those living in the Northeast and Midwest have always been tedious. The new CVG-HNL nonstop easily shaves 90 minutes of travel time off a long flight. However, as a result of this new service, feed will undoubtedly be stolen from SLC, LAX and SFO-HNLLAX-HNL may be reduced to once daily, or SLC/SFO may be cancelled.

DL’s service to Hawaii in the fall (all B764):
1xATL-HNL
1xCVG-HNL
1xSLC-HNL
2xLAX-HNL
1xSFO-HNL
1xLAX-OGG

DL’s service to Hawaii at its peak (all L1011):
1xATL-HNL
1xDFW-HNL
5xLAX-HNL
1xSFO-HNL
2xHNL-OGG



User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2958 times:

The CVG FCO flight was cancelled because of the war in Iraq and the downturn in transatlantic passengers.

User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

No city is supposed to lose service because of the CVG flight. I, too, wonder if LAX might become once daily.

User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1736 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2853 times:

Any word on JFK-HNL DL service? Someone had mentioned that once the 767-400 crew rest issue was resolved, this flight would be started.


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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6484 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

JFK-HNL might be a little tough given that it would rely mostly on O+D. However, given DL's push into the leisure market, I think JFK-HNL might be a possibility in the next year or two.

CVG-HNL does help open up the midwest to HNL. Many smaller midwestern markets have to double connect in order to reach HNL....this service will allow more single connections. I'm sure the Hawaiian gov't is happy to see this service as they have frequently complained about a lack of connection to the Eastern US.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

JFK-HNL could be useful to get European travellers to Hawaii...

Do many Europeans vacation in Hawaii?

N


User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

I have always seen a lot of Europeans in Hawaii. The JFK flight would have to be timed right for the connections, which shouldn't be too hard.

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3596 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
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Actually, there are not too much European travelers in Hawaii. The total amount of European travelers is probably less than 30,000 a year. The travel time is a big turn off, often involving long waits between flights. They have a lot of closer destinations that offer sun, surf, and sand. However, those that do come stay for long periods.

User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6412 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

SAN-HNL with an L1011 operated for a long time as well.

Steve in N.O



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User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6579 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

HNL-JFK-Europe connections (actually, HNL-anywhere-in-the-U.S.-Europe) would be pretty brutal, considering you'd have to leave HNL close to midnight, arrive at JFK in the late afternoon, and then fly overnight again to Europe.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

SAN-HNL with an L1011 operated for a long time as well.

It was dropped in favor of SFO-HNL.


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5476 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Any chance of DFW-HNL being restarted? I thought the reason it was dropped was due to crew rest issues on the 764 after the L1011's were retired.

blink



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2474 times:

Blink182,

No, I don't think DL will not restarted nonstop from DFW-HNL flight either and that was some of long time ago after L1011s is retires. I was flown nonstop from ATL-DFW-HNL by one-stop in DFW some of their passengers stop in DFW and then going straight to HNL flight. It was very long flight. It was flight #17 from ATL-DFW-HNL. I still kind of remember these flight of 7 years ago. Well, talk ya later!  Smile

Regards!

Scott W.


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2471 times:

Any chance of DFW-HNL being restarted?

It’s my understanding that DFW-HNL would’ve been cancelled even if DL had never retired its L1011. I doubt it will return. If it does, it won’t be for awhile… DL will want to monitor the performance of its existing HNL markets long after the CVG and ATL flights inaugurate/ reinaugurate.


User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2429 times:

Maybe Delta Connection will pick up DFW-HNL on a CRJ?  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2424 times:

Maybe Delta Connection will pick up DFW-HNL on a CRJ?

Don't be silly!

Maybe with an ERJ.


User currently offlineBoeingfan From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

DL is cashing out the Skymile accounts of the large number of members in the CVG area. Alot of connection traffic through CVG too, thus the scheduled afternoon departure. HNL is a leisure market.



User currently offlineAq737 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

I flew to London/Heathrow via Chicago. Not too bad. I flew AA and it was a 5:45pm departure to ORD. Arrival at Chicago was something like 6 in the morning. Then AA90 from ORD (at 9am) to LHR. Arrive LHR at something like 10:45pm.

Also, you could fly to LAX for the connection to LHR all in a day. UA has 1-stop service via LAX on the same plane...Only one night. Not as bad as many think.

Aq737


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