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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Posted (10 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

So far for this month, Frontier has a 72.2% load factor. Compare that to last year, when it was 62.5% at this time. Also, the stock is continuing to rise...up to $9.87 per share now. These are pretty good signs that things are looking up for the airline. The costs will continue to go down as the older Boeing's are retired and the new A318/319's are brought in. More expansion is on the horizon...the previously announced MKE and SNA of course...new cities in Mexico...and a few other "exotic" places down the road. The new Fall schedule will be announced pretty soon, which will feature more frequencies to some of the higher load-factor cities in the F9 system.

Overall, this Summer is turning out to be a great one for Frontier. I'd expect a new aircraft within the next few months, possibly taking a "step up" in the Airbus family.  Smile

That's all from F9 land for now.





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User currently offlineDiatraveler From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

How are the pre-sales for MKE going? Three flights a day seems ambitious. I just switched my UA MileagePlus VISA to F9 Mastercard. Go Frontier!!

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
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Okay, guessing is the best game, and you've got me scratching my head about the "exotic" destinations.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

In another post, you suggested it might be somewhere in the Caribbean. But almost anywhere there would require "overwater" capability - life rafts and life jackets - which F9 doesn't presently have.

The exception might be the Bahamas.....

If it is to be overwater, then I'd go for the US Virgin Islands or Jamaica. I suppose Puerto Rico, but every airline and his dog flies there these days.

The only western Caribbean destnation I can think of (except Mexico and which wouldn't require overwater) would be Belize. But there is enough traffic for that?

I'm not looking for an answer (I like to guess), but if you've got another clue you want to throw at me......

Anyhoo, thanks for the update.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

I'm not sure of the presales to MKE, but I'll snoop around today and see what I come up with. Personally, I thought 2 flights/day would be good for MKE...but you never know.

And about the "exotic" destinations....those routes would require a "step up" in the Airbus family, which is something they are looking into.

I can tell you, personally, I have promoted a DEN-MSY-SJU route flown twice weekly with an A319...I've gotten some positive responses...so we'll just see how things play out.


Steve in N.O



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User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Steve,

Not to burst your bubble, but Frontier just signed the lease on gate F2 and F10 in Ft. Lauderdale..........................................

FLL is also the only station in Florida with an over wing F9 staff... all the other cities are contracted out.

-n


User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Good for Frontier, I hope they grow. They are definitely a good airline. Is there a chance of DEN-BOS route being brought back?

Alex.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1736 times:
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An-225:

I think all Frontier fans would be pleased to see a return of DEN/BOS.

It's been rumored, but there is a shortage of gate space in BOS. When Terminal A is back in service, I'd hope to see F9 back at Logan. Maybe before.

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

Steve,

just to clarify. The airport user agreement has been changed so that F9 controls both F2 and F10, in other words F9 has the priority on both gates (so if AA needs to use it, they can as long as F9 doesn't need it..), but means that no other airline can come in and use it as their own...

-n


User currently offlinePhxinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Why doesn't Frontier focus on getting their flights in and out on time? I've completed 22 flights on Frontier and I would say that 60% of them have been more than 15 minutes late. Frontier has an especially difficult time with PHX. I no longer fly Frontier for business trips for this reason.


Keepin' it real.
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

I just spoke with an F9 pilot last Friday about the upcoming A318s and F9's first revenue flight title they will claim. He said they are all very excited about the "shortbus" and it is an honor to be performing the first rev flight.

All in all, we had a good talk. . .as I always do with F9 staff.

DIA



Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

I've been on about 20 or so F9 flights out of PHX, LAS, DEN, FLL, TPA, MCO, ATL, MCI, etc.. and I have only had one delay due to weather.

PHX may get more delays than normal because it's a maintenance base... they don't release a plane until its fixed (and us being aviation buffs should appreciate that..)

-n


User currently offlineB777UA From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

Hi all do you think Frontier will ever serve cities like Moline Illinois, Cedar Rapids Iowa or Peoria Illinois? I sure hope so because it would be the only airline with the bigger airline Jets

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

B777UA:

What do you call a 717? That's not an RJ. Moline is served by FL, Bloomington is too. Unfortunately, I don't think Peoria or Cedar Rapids will see a whole lot of "Big Jet" service from any carrier. The markets are simply too small.

Also:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the A318/19/20 have a range of over 3000nm? Wouldn't that mean that they can fly DEN-SJU n/s? I'm not 100% sure that SJU is less than 3000nm from DEN, but it seems like it's right about that distance...

Anyway, I'm hoping you're right and F9 is doing well. I don't want LCCs to be limited to WN, FL, TZ, and Spirit. Oh, yeah. YX has "Super Saver" service snicker!.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1431 times:
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Elwood64151:

Yes, the A320 family has the range to reach some of the Caribbean islands from Denver. But at this stage, F9 aircraft aren't fitted with overwater capability (life rafts, vests, etc.).

The DEN/CUN flight follows the coastline around the northern Gulf of Mexico, for example.

F9 is certainly going for more "exotic" destinations - and several of those destinations tie in with cruise lines.They're making a splash about "Frontier Cruises" on the website (with some great FF miles deals).

So someday I would guess that some of the fleet will be fitted for overwater.

cheers

mariner




aeternum nauta
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