BlueJet From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 397 posts, RR: 4 Posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3262 times:
I am flying to Quito on Wednesday, with AA stopping in Miami. First off- has anyone done this? (I am originating in NY, then MIA, then Quito) If so, how was it?
Once I am there, I will need to make a connection. How is the Quito Airport? Nice, not nice, whatever...
I will be flying TAME, and I was a little unnerved recently to see in a packet that the UN prepares that the Ecuadorian Airline System is not well admired, and maintenance of the planes is very questionable. Any info, thoughts?
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OPINIONS, AND INPUT.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
Quite Mariscal Sucre is not a modern airport, well not by US standards anyway. Its also rather small. Try to get a window seat on the way in though - the decent and approach can be interesting with some very high mountains aroundabout, and once you're on the ground watching airplanes depart and make a fairly quick right turn to avoid hitting the mountain at the end of the runway can also be interesting.
Ecuador can be a tough environment for aviation - accidents very occasionally happen in such environments, and with TAME being the longest standing domestic airline it is inevitable that they'd have had their share. TAME currently operate 727s and F-28s, so the flight should be fun. We flew with another Ecuadorian airline - SAETA - which is now nolonger operating, but that flight was fine. Don't worry, and enjoy the experience.
Pzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3113 times:
UIO seems to be an outdated airport, however it is very functional: you do not have to walk a lot between counters, immigration area and your gate.
I would agree with Lan_Fanatic if you are looking for a nice and neat airline: Lan Ecuador should be your choice... But if you are looking for interesting aircrafts and exotic airlines, then it is too boring... Try TAME.
B747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3100 times:
Recommendation from a pilot here...
Many people from USA have the following attitude:
Airlines in USA are the best in the world, they have the best pilots... Many of these facts are true, excellent airlines, excellent pilots, but... consider these few points, before you misjudge the South American airlines and pilots...
Ecuador, and so is Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, Chile (and Argentina) have very high mountains, and approaches at airports are not always easy. Quito, Cali, Bogota are definitely airports for well trained pilots in local conditions. It is a weakness with pilots from USA... who maybe were last year, only flying between Memphis and Milwaukee... and now after one or two trips, are (occasionally) doing a trip to these "special airports" like the FAA says.
ATC controlers are not always good with the English language (I often use Spanish because of that fact). An Ecuadorian pilot flies to his home base several times a week and knows where every mountain is, probably does not need a map. Remember the infortunate AA 757 Cali accident, it was a combination of communication confusion (clearance limit construed as cleared direct to...) and possibly language, a controler with bad English, and a good old boy from Cleveland who is not familiar with the Spanish accent, and... if not, not knowing where the mountains are, since they do not operate there all the time....
Dont think South Americans pilots are pilots of the "third world", they are excellent pilots. In their hands, you are absolutely safe in the tough environment they operate...
Relax, and enjoy your flight...
N743AS From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3060 times:
Quito is high up around 9,000ft which makes take offs fun. I've been in there a number of times and as long as the volcano isn't erupting its fine. TAME is a good airline and is actually run by the Ecuadorian Army. The last time I jumpseated on them the captain told me they where applying to serve the USA, but this hasn't happened yet. They fly 727's and they may still have a leased 757... I flew on the 757 in 1999. Anyway have a good trip and enjoy TAME!
If the airplane is one piece, don't cheat on it...ride the bastard down! -Ernest K. Ghann