Britair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 933 posts, RR: 15 Posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10628 times:
Hi guys and gals, this maybe a stupid question, but what is in the Upper deck of a 747 Freighter?? Is it used for cargo too? Crew rests? I am assuming there would be toilets/galleys, but especially on the 747-300 Freighter, there seems a lot of space there, what's it used for?? And is there a difference in those aircraft converted from passenger versions to those bulit purposefully as freighters??
Bromma1968 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10563 times:
When I visited the upper deck on a Cargolux 747-400F the captain told me the
seats in the upper deck are used by passengers traveling with their cargo for example horse owners. I read somewhere the 747-300Fs are somewhat more
aerodynamic than the 747-200Fs because of the longer upper deck.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 81
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10528 times:
The 747-400F doesn't have the extended upper deck, it has a 747-200 style forward fuselage... but I bet you'll also be able to find some converted pax 747-400Fs that have that extended upper deck, and therefore that extra aerodynamic benefit.
Many operators do have a crew rest lounge in the upper deck area... some also have a section for mail-type freight or lightweight stuff that's not containerized.
Aussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10384 times:
I understand from an inside source that Dragonair has a cabin upstairs that they use for pax movement and that they have a FA that serves here. Can anybody confirm? Does anybody know why Martinair always has a FA in uniform travelling on their cargo flights and what does he/she do? Must be a long flight alone looking after the boys up front.........suppose a good book would do if there is no IFE!
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11148 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10004 times:
Interesting line-up of pictures that show a lot of difference. LH is very frugal, I´ve been on one that looked exactly like on the picture. Made me wonder why didn´t they have some old 1st class seats or at least businessclass available instead of coach? Where did these go?
Interesting also the 744F of Cargolux. Makes you wonder why there are only 3 windows on the 744F upper deck. If I´m a millionaire with horses on board I would expect a window!
KAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9762 times:
On KE -400s the upstairs is very nice. 6 biz class seats with 2 crew bunks. On the only -300 it is about the same but much more room, considering it has the stretch. Our MD-11s have a half-assed fold-out crew area just behind the captain's seat (other side of bulkhead...), and 1 or two jump seats in the entry area. Not exactly plush by any means...
We use ours for people traveling with their cargo, usually horses or other large live animals. And actually, there really isn't enough room to put freight up there, and besides, trying to wrassle anything larger than a suitcase up the ladder is not fun.
is that a light at the end of the tunnel or just a train?