Boeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
Bellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 574 posts, RR: 60 Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
Boeing 747-311
...why is british airways trying to change theres?...
You've rather missed the point. BA aren't! They would like it to stay at 55.
...what is the big deal about how old you are...
Simple, BA's salary bill.
Most of their long serving senior pilots have been on the top point of a 24 point longevity pay scale for many years now.
BA had planned that they would retire at 55, be replaced by pilots with less time in the company who would earn less for doing the same job, and that BA's total pilot salary bill would therefore fall.
If, instead of retiring at 55, they stay for another 5 years, then BA's salary bill won't fall as planned but will rise.
EEC law will outlaw age discrimination in the coming years, but the transition period could be interesting!
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1918 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
In the US, pilots operating under FAR Part 121 are required to retire at 60. Why? I guess the government thinks you are worn out when you turn 61, I don't know. As for other airline personnel, I don't think there is a mandatory retirement. I have met and flown with Flight Attendants over 70. Most have been there for 50 years and some airlines don't offer them much in the form of retirement. Therefore, they have to keep working as long as they can. When you have been doing something for that long, it is sort of hard to just leave and find something else. Same with ticket agents, reservationists, maintenance, etc.
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5439 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1984 times:
In the US, pilots operating under FAR Part 121 are required to retire at 60. Why? I guess the government thinks you are worn out when you turn 61, I don't know. As for other airline personnel, I don't think there is a mandatory retirement. I have met and flown with Flight Attendants over 70. Most have been there for 50 years and some airlines don't offer them much in the form of retirement. Therefore, they have to keep working as long as they can. When you have been doing something for that long, it is sort of hard to just leave and find something else. Same with ticket agents, reservationists, maintenance, etc.
Age discrimination laws in the United States limit mandatory retirement rules to certain safety-sensitive occupations and a few others. Pilots can be required to retire at 60 because their jobs are safety-sensitive. The same considerations do not apply with respect to flight attendants, although I suppose a contrary argument could be made.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Boeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
Bellerophon-
i appologize, i must have read that wrong. i appreciate you fully descrbing what exactly is going on! i really apreciate it.
who wants the retirement age to change?
does this differ with the different airlines? what are some examples? thanks
B747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1906 times:
USA requires pilots to retire at age 60, but flight engineers have no limit.
Many countries in the world have a 65 rule, applied for pilots AND engineers.
Some rare countries have no limit, if the medical tests are ok, ok to fly...
There is a strong movement in the US presently to permit pilots to fly to 65...
xxx
All above applies of course to airlines - private airplanes, corporate etc. do not have age limit, unless an employer (owner of the aircraft) makes a restriction for age...
xxx
Happy contrails -
(s) Skipper, age 59, going to continue to 65...
P.S. PanAm 1991 bankruptcy left me without any retirement...
All of it was in PanAm company stocks and bonds...
So do not ask me why I left USA for Argentina...
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2235 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1883 times:
My father is a ticket agent for America West. He is 72. He is one of the original employees who was on the payroll the date they initiated service. He is in the first group at America West to get his 20 year pin this year.
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