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Delta No Longer Largest US Transatlantic Carrier  
User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7266 posts, RR: 57
Posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

Latest OAG data for July points to Delta falling from second to fifth largest carrier accross the atlantic, having cut 52 daily flights alongside capacity from downsizing to the 763 from the MD11.

In all, European carriers now hold 56% of the capacity, with US carriers holding 40%

American airlines have overtaken them as largest US trans-atlantic carrier, and third largest, after BA (first) and LH (second)

Delta have cut rotations at LGW, FRA, MXP, CDG and FCO, and capacity at many more outstations.

BA have added 83 more frequencies, with LH 109. EI have added an additional 30 frequencies.


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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4204 times:

I thought CO would win that award.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

CO has never really been that high up there.

Delta used to have a seriously massive transatlantic schedule.... something like 26 transatlantic destinations.

CO will still be lower than UA, as well...

N


User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

That data probably reflects May when Delta made major cuts to their schedule. But nearly all those flights were restored, so I'm sure data from June/July forward will show Delta regaining the #1 spot.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13704 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4025 times:
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Last I checked, CO was well ahead of both AA and UA for transatlantic destinations served, and only one city behind DL.


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Its not measured in terms of destinations... but frequency and pax carried.

And really I think just pax carried.

N


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

I don't know off hand where CO stands, but. . .I was at EWR a couple weeks ago during a layover and man, I just soaked up all the Euro-bound Continental flights taking off one after another. There was a mess of 762s and 764s and I loved every minute of it. Of course, it was mid-evening during a Continental "rush" of outbounds.

DIA



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3906 times:

Yes, results for June and July will show that Delta once again is the largest transatlantic carrier because they restored JFK to many destinations.

Jeremy


User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

Thanks for the news Bestwestern, very interesting.

regards, SN-A330



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User currently offlineRajivvyas From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Where, which Web site, can I get the raw data?

User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 3568 times:

What European destinations are served by Delta from JFK? What about from Atlanta?


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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

DL European cities served from JFK:
Paris
Rome
Milan
Nice
Amsterdam
Madrid
Barcelona
Moscow
Athens
Istanbul
Frankfurt
Brussels
Venice



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User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

From ATL, Delta serves the following:

MAD
LGW
MAN
DUB
SNN
CDG
FRA
MUC
STR
BRU
AMS
ZRH
MXP
FCO

-Airplanetire


User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

Thanks for the info, flyguy1 and airplanetire.


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User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Isn't VCE still on the list from JFK?

User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7266 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

The information I show is for July scheduled capacity and includes all non-stop flights between western Europe and USA.

Since you are asking the top carrier rank is as follows are % figures are change in capacity over July 2002.
BA +5.9%
LH +11.1%
AA +5.6%
DL -11.7%
UA -25.0%
AF +6.8%
VS +14.2%
CO -3.4%
NW -11.5%
US +9.7%
LX -1.4%
SK +7.6%
AZ +7.7%
EI +24.6%
IB -7.7%



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Where did you get the above information from? I don't understand why Delta's capacity is so decreased so much from last year considering that they have only closed one route, CVG-FCO. And the MD-11 disposal shouldn't have resulted in that mcuh capacity, or maybe I'm wrong. But whatever.......


Jeremy


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8912 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

During the Iraq war, Delta cut a lot of its flights out of JFK, due to the slow travel demand. DUring this period, they rerouted everyone through ATL (if feasible), or a SkyTeam partner's hub.

Jeff


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4956 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2975 times:
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The Delta numbers for July are more than 11% lower than July 2002 primarily because of the MD11 disposals. The M11s were configured for 253-262 pax. whereas the 763ERs replacing them seat between 185 and 194 pax. That's quite a hefty decrease on some routes. While the number of BizElite seats has not decreased much (46-47 on the ERs vs. 47-49 on the M11s), the number of Economy seats have been reduced quite a bit on those affected routes (from 206-214 on the M11 in Y to 138-147 in Y on the ERs).

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