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Delta No Longer Largest US Transatlantic Carrier  
User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Latest OAG data for July points to Delta falling from second to fifth largest carrier accross the atlantic, having cut 52 daily flights alongside capacity from downsizing to the 763 from the MD11.

In all, European carriers now hold 56% of the capacity, with US carriers holding 40%

American airlines have overtaken them as largest US trans-atlantic carrier, and third largest, after BA (first) and LH (second)

Delta have cut rotations at LGW, FRA, MXP, CDG and FCO, and capacity at many more outstations.

BA have added 83 more frequencies, with LH 109. EI have added an additional 30 frequencies.


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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4224 times:

I thought CO would win that award.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4220 times:

CO has never really been that high up there.

Delta used to have a seriously massive transatlantic schedule.... something like 26 transatlantic destinations.

CO will still be lower than UA, as well...

N


User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4193 times:

That data probably reflects May when Delta made major cuts to their schedule. But nearly all those flights were restored, so I'm sure data from June/July forward will show Delta regaining the #1 spot.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13765 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 4045 times:
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Last I checked, CO was well ahead of both AA and UA for transatlantic destinations served, and only one city behind DL.


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 4032 times:

Its not measured in terms of destinations... but frequency and pax carried.

And really I think just pax carried.

N


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 3950 times:

I don't know off hand where CO stands, but. . .I was at EWR a couple weeks ago during a layover and man, I just soaked up all the Euro-bound Continental flights taking off one after another. There was a mess of 762s and 764s and I loved every minute of it. Of course, it was mid-evening during a Continental "rush" of outbounds.

DIA



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

Yes, results for June and July will show that Delta once again is the largest transatlantic carrier because they restored JFK to many destinations.

Jeremy


User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Thanks for the news Bestwestern, very interesting.

regards, SN-A330



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User currently offlineRajivvyas From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Where, which Web site, can I get the raw data?

User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

What European destinations are served by Delta from JFK? What about from Atlanta?


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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 18 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

DL European cities served from JFK:
Paris
Rome
Milan
Nice
Amsterdam
Madrid
Barcelona
Moscow
Athens
Istanbul
Frankfurt
Brussels
Venice



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User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

From ATL, Delta serves the following:

MAD
LGW
MAN
DUB
SNN
CDG
FRA
MUC
STR
BRU
AMS
ZRH
MXP
FCO

-Airplanetire


User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

Thanks for the info, flyguy1 and airplanetire.


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User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 14 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Isn't VCE still on the list from JFK?

User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 11 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

The information I show is for July scheduled capacity and includes all non-stop flights between western Europe and USA.

Since you are asking the top carrier rank is as follows are % figures are change in capacity over July 2002.
BA +5.9%
LH +11.1%
AA +5.6%
DL -11.7%
UA -25.0%
AF +6.8%
VS +14.2%
CO -3.4%
NW -11.5%
US +9.7%
LX -1.4%
SK +7.6%
AZ +7.7%
EI +24.6%
IB -7.7%



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 3099 times:

Where did you get the above information from? I don't understand why Delta's capacity is so decreased so much from last year considering that they have only closed one route, CVG-FCO. And the MD-11 disposal shouldn't have resulted in that mcuh capacity, or maybe I'm wrong. But whatever.......


Jeremy


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months ago) and read 3045 times:

During the Iraq war, Delta cut a lot of its flights out of JFK, due to the slow travel demand. DUring this period, they rerouted everyone through ATL (if feasible), or a SkyTeam partner's hub.

Jeff


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4977 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2995 times:
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The Delta numbers for July are more than 11% lower than July 2002 primarily because of the MD11 disposals. The M11s were configured for 253-262 pax. whereas the 763ERs replacing them seat between 185 and 194 pax. That's quite a hefty decrease on some routes. While the number of BizElite seats has not decreased much (46-47 on the ERs vs. 47-49 on the M11s), the number of Economy seats have been reduced quite a bit on those affected routes (from 206-214 on the M11 in Y to 138-147 in Y on the ERs).

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