Airmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
Hmmm.... maybe I just posted it thinking since its the only shot of the iarcraft at thise site it may have gone unnoticed by some who are not regular at checking new pic's, including my self, so it may come to their notice. Any crime in that, or do you just need to type for the heck of it?
CMK10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
Just a little bit of trivia about that particular plane. If you look near the cockpit you see a logo reading "Flight 50" That was the plane that Pan Am used to fly around the world in 54 Hours 7 Minutes and 12 Seconds on October 28-30, 1977. It left from San Francisco and circled the poles and arrived back in San Francisco two days after it left. On November 17, 2001 a South African 747-400 broke the record.
"Traveling light is the only way to fly" - Eric Clapton
B747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
We had 10 of these with PanAm if I recall well, and served us good...
They were used for NRT, SYD, also JFK to BAH...
When UAL bought our Pacific Division in 1986, they insisted getting the SPs...
So, dont criticize that type of aircraft, in its days, they were very long range.
Now, there are some 200 series that have longer range than the SPs...
SWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3419 times:
I have always liked the PA SP's. Very nice to see it in the billboard scheme
Glad you posted it otherwise I never would have seen it and that bit of airline history would have been lost to me.
Clipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3364 times:
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Trippe retired in 1968. The 747SPs were ordered beginning in 1973 and delivered in 1976 (PA was the launch customer, of course). There were a total of 10 ordered; later in 1980 a Braniff 747SP was picked up to top off their 747SP fleet at 11. All 11 later were transferred to UAL in 1986 as part of the Pacific Division sale. Listed are the engine type, date of order, and number ordered on that date...
On 25-Apr-1976, the inaugural Boeing 747SP flight was marked with PA801, the first non-stop flight from New York-Kennedy to Tokyo.
On 1-May-1976, PA200 departed New York-Kennedy for an equatorial, round-the-world flight with 98 passengers aboard. The 747SP was named Clipper Liberty Bell (N533PA, pictured above) in commemoration of the country's bicentennial, and made two stops, at Delhi and Tokyo.
On 28-Oct-1977, PA50 ("Polar 50") departed San Francisco for a polar, round-the-world flight with 172 passengers aboard. The 747SP was named Clipper New Horizons (N533PA, pictured above), and made three stops, at London, Cape Town, and Auckland. Aboard were strolling musicians, hair dresser, Gucci fashion show, 8 meals (full service and buffet), and 12 movies. Cost was $3333 for first class, $2222 for economy class.
N533PA was initially to be the aircraft named "Clipper Juan T. Trippe" in 1982. But, that honor went instead to N747PA (747-121).
Ord From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3098 times:
The only reason United insisted on getting the SPs when they bought Pan Am's Pacific routes in 1985/86 waas because they didn't have their own aircraft to fly these routes. They had to have the planes! Don't forget they also insisted on getting the L-1011s as well until newer planes could be ordered and received.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7929 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2899 times:
An interesting tidbit--Boeing worked hard to try to sell the 747SP to Japan Airlines (JL). However, JL said that the plane's seating capacity was too small, so JL never did buy the 747SP. But JL did manage to fly between NRT and JFK nonstop before the 747-400 arrived; the airline ordered a number of 747-200B's that had extra fuel tanks installed so that for some minor sacrifice in pax/cargo capacity they could fly the route non-stop year-round. Indeed, the fastest JFK-NRT flight is (I think) held by now-retired JL pilot John Deakin, who flew this route in just under 11 hours on a JL 742B!