Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1583 posts, RR: 16 Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4429 times:
I know we've heard this one before but this time it looks real. AirTran CEO Joe Leonard and President Bob Fornaro will make a "big announcement" at 10:00am, Tuesday, July 1st in the Atrium at Atlanta Hartsfield. Employees have been asked to attend in uniform.
727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5717 posts, RR: 20 Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4374 times:
OOOOOOHHHHHHH big plane order? I'm tingling! I hope its a mixture of 737-700 and 800!
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 30 Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4336 times:
The 737NG order book may add up pretty fast with the ANA order, now possibly Airtran and probably JAL to follow. (If the news is about future a/c orders)
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1583 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4317 times:
Rumors: major Westward expansion, merger, aircraft order (319, 320, 321, 712, 713, 73G, 738, 739, 752), HQ move to Atlanta, a combination of the above.
Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1583 posts, RR: 16 Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4305 times:
It is now reported it will be the plane order announcement.
777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 488 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4302 times:
I hope it is Boeing but with Airbus history of unrealistic pricing in order to get sales I am afraid they will get it. Airtran will be smart and take the best deal.
Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1583 posts, RR: 16 Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4293 times:
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4282 times:
Unrealistic for Boeing does not mean its unrealistic.
777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 488 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4256 times:
Brons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2969 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4248 times:
If it's 737's, no wonder Boeing announced they would be ramping up production next year.
I just have a hard time seeing AirTran ordering Airbus with the current exchange rate and the current state of relations with the EU. I'm sure our government will pressure them to buy Boeing. But, I may be proved wrong, who knows.
Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1583 posts, RR: 16 Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4243 times:
Dow Jones Business News
Boeing Likely to Obtain 100-Plane Order From AirTran
Monday June 30, 5:22 pm ET
By J. Lynn Lunsford and Nicole Harris, Staff Reporters of The Wall Street Journal
DALLAS -- Boeing Co. (NYSE:BA - News) has emerged as the likely winner in a competition to snag a 100-airplane order from AirTran Airways .
According to people familiar with the deal, Boeing edged out rival Airbus to supply the rapidly growing low-cost carrier with 100 of its single-aisle Boeing 737s that the airline plans to use for longer-haul routes.
The deal is worth about $6 billion at list prices. It includes 50 firm orders for 737-700s and 737-800s, as well as options for another 50 more.
Spokesmen for the airline and the manufacturers declined to comment on the pending decision. AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson said the carrier's board of directors was meeting to finalize the decision Monday night in preparation for a Tuesday announcement in Atlanta.
The order is expected to be one of the biggest of the year and was considered by both Boeing and Airbus to be a "must-win."
For Boeing, it meant retaining its position as the sole supplier for AirTran. Airbus, on the other hand, was hoping to make serious inroads into another low- cost carrier in the U.S. So far, JetBlue Airways Corp. (NasdaqNM:JBLU - News) is the only low- cost carrier in the U.S. to fly a fleet of Airbus A320s; the rest rely on the Southwest Airlines Co. (NYSE:LUV - News) model of operating Boeing's workhorse 737s.
Mr. Hutcheson said AirTran planned to add longer-haul planes to its fleet in order to compete more effectively against other carriers. "We need to be able to fly anywhere we want to go ... we need the flexibility of the range and we need additional capacity," he added.
For AirTran, the new jets will further the discount carrier's growth strategy, helping it to compete vigorously with rivals Delta Air Lines Inc. (NYSE:DAL - News) and other low-fare carriers such as Southwest Airlines.
AirTran needs the bigger jets to operate longer-haul routes such as coast-to- coast flying. The carrier recently launched service from its Atlanta hub to West Coast cities such as Denver, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. But the carrier's Boeing 717s, with about 117 seats, can't fly such long routes. AirTran, is currently leasing two Airbus 320 jets from Wichita, Kansas-based Ryan International Airlines to operate flights between Los Angeles and Atlanta.
AirTran is one of the few U.S. carriers making money. The airline is benefiting from its lower costs as well as consumers eager to purchase cheaper plane tickets amid a slow economy.
The company posted first-quarter net income of $2 million, or three cents a share, compared with a year-earlier net loss of $3 million, or four cents a share. Revenue jumped 31% to $208 million from $159.3 million.
-By J. Lynn Lunsford and Nicole Harris; The Wall Street Journal; 214-951-7113
Brons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2969 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
JAL777,
I think it's "only" 50 firm orders.
Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4137 times:
This is really great news. Although I have heard from Flight Attendants and other employees that they were hoping for Airbuses, I don't mind Boeings. I can't wait to fly on the 73G and 738 with AirTran.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16252 posts, RR: 52 Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4107 times:
"I think it's "only" 50 firm orders"
50 firm, 50 options. Plus the 45 firm from ANA, BOEING!
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4072 times:
I guess I may have to sneak over to the atrium to hear the official announcement. Airbus is having their bubble Airbusted. With the AirTran order being a "must win" for both Airbus and Boeing, Boeing saves a little face after the lack of major orders @ Paris.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64 Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4018 times:
Congratulations to both AirTran and Boeing on this order, if it's for real (and I'm assuming it is). It'll be great to see those 73Gs and 738s into ATL.
By the way Gr8slvrflt...awesome title for the post!
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 43 Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3998 times:
Damn, I thought AirTran was going to announce that they were going to serve a new flavor of Coke.
AApilot2b From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 567 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3922 times:
No, actually, they are just changing the brand of peanuts.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3908 times:
I should buy some Boeing Stock right now...That's what I will do.
-UN
Phxinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3895 times:
Syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3832 times:
Good job for Boeing! It's about damn time. Now all we need are some 757 and 717 orders and life will be great.
If it's true, nice choice AirTran!
25 Flyer732: They're going to announce that I'm going to be the new CEO. I vote for -700s and SFO, PHX, SEA.
26 Luv2fly: At one time this was one of if not the biggest loser in my portfolio! Now it is the highest stock, over the amount I paid for it! In hindsight I might
27 ScottysAir: Hey Flyer732, Are you really get the vote on B737-700 aircraft their nonstop from ATL-PHX, SFO, SEA. This willing use on the longer-haul nonstop out o
28 Noise: YES! Congrats to Boeing and AirTran. I am very happy for both of them. So where do you guys see AirTran going now? The west is obviously where they ar
29 Atcboy73: WINGLETS!!! WINGLETS!!! WINGLETS!!! PLEASE GET THE WINGLETS!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
30 AvObserver: Gigneil "Unrealistic for Boeing does not mean its unrealistic." Neil, a lot of us here think believe Airbus is receiving indirect subsidies via EADS m
31 BR715-A1-30: Ryan, If you become the CEO tomorrow, I got a list of things you can do. Even though Beau Rivage pays for AirTran's service in here, I want... 1. 5 da
32 Gigneil: Eh, no. It doesn't irritate me... I'm an adult, as you appear to be. And really, I don't admire Airbus the company more than I admire Boeing the compa
33 Atcboy73: Anyone else want winglets as much as I? (see previous post to find out how bad I want them)
34 AvObserver: Thank you, Neil, for your more than gracious and succinct response to my query. It does appear in fact that I misjudged the focus of your posts. I too
35 UAL-Fan: THANK GOD They've come to their senses!!!!! Now please come to San Diego, just 2 non-stops to Atlanta a day that's all I ask. I am so sick of Delta's
36 Flyer732: I'd like to see winglets as well. If they don't mention them tomorrow, I'll try to dig out some info when I go back to work on Thursday.
37 Kjet12: It's great to see a US carrier order a US airliner. Good job FL and Boeing!! Kris
38 Korg747: Great for boeing and great for airtran. the airtran colors would look fantasitc with the 737-700/800 winglets!
39 Dynkrisolo: Gigneil wrote: Boeing has far more supporters on this website than Airbus does, and, of those supporters, the Boeing ones are far more vocal, and, wit
40 Yyz717: Reuters is reporting 50+50 737NG's and 14 717's: http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030630/airlines_airtran_boeing_2.html
41 N79969: This is a relief. Always happy to hear about more Boeing sales. So far Boeing is doing pretty well in the low-cost market. They have only lost on Easy
42 Gigneil: I hope I don't offend too many people. I enjoy the vigorous debate, and I'm certainly not always right. On to the topic of winglets for Airtran's orde
43 Bruce: Well now with a big plane order what is more interesting is to see where they will use those planes. What new cities come online...... you might see C
44 United777: Here is a report from a Seattle media station. http://www.komotv.com/stories/25754.htm This a good week for the 737 program. First the ANA order and n
45 FLAIRPORT: will they move to ATL. there is a good deal on office space near my house?
46 FLAIRPORT: can anyone go to see the announcment
47 IndustrialPate: there is a good deal on office space near my house Too funny!
48 717fan: What a great day! And so many people thougt that Boeing has lost this year against Airbus.... Would be really nice if they add the 717 to the order li
49 BR715-A1-30: If they start flying to SAT.... I'm there dude.
50 BR715-A1-30: Just got this via email (FL-AIRTRAN-AIRWAYS)(AAI) AirTran Airways Announces Webcast on Aircraft Order Business Editors/Travel Writers ORLANDO, Fla.--
51 STT757: New Cities from ATL.. (this is speculation on my part). Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, San Juan, Cancun
54 STT757: "They already serve LAX and LAS... " Not with their own aircraft and crews.
55 BR715-A1-30: And just 4-5 years ago, Joe Leonard was "crying" at how empty Concourse C was. Literally, I read where he wanted to cry at how empty it was. I salute
57 IndustrialPate: who had concourse C pre AirTran? Eastern...
58 FLAIRPORT: after Eastern and before AirTran hub it was empty?
59 STT757: TWA tried to build a hub in ATL after Eastern's demise, but I don't know which concourse they operted.
60 IndustrialPate: after Eastern and before AirTran hub it was empty? Most of it was, yes. The absence between Eastern Airlines and ValuJet Scarelines was only about 2.5
61 Doug_or: since the 737 order was to get a long range a/c into the fleet to expand on hte 717's capabilities. I would assume the 717s will continue to be used o
62 Shenzhen: One of the biggrest savings with the blended winglets is engine maintenance. With the winglets, the engines can stay on wing longer. However, Boeing d
63 MSYtristar: Good for Boeing and AirTran! Even though Airbus makes great aircraft (the A319 is an absolute pleasure to work with) , it's always good to see Boeing
64 Greg: This is very likely the death rattle for the 717 line. If there was any single carrier that would have influenced it's growth and continuation..it wou
65 STT757: Don't be so dramatic, Reuters is reporting 14 more 717s along with 50 firm and 50 options for 737NGs. http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030630/airlines_airtran_
66 L1011Fan: Let's not forget that nothing has been officially announced yet...But I'm still psyched! I hope the Reuters article is correct about FL wanting more 7
67 LGB Photos: Interesting how US Airways is pulling out of the west coast and Airtran decides to jump into the west coast competition. I am going to wait and see ho
68 Gr8slvrflt: After Eastern, TWA had the South side of C-Concourse and ValuJet the North. After TWA left, ValuJet/AirTran moved to the South and ASA took the North
69 Keesje: Good for Boeing, congratulations ! Hope they got a high Price & make a lot of profit on the deal.
70 FlyPNS1: Thank god, no more "Which aircraft will Airtran choose debate?" Of course, it still leaves the door open for the "Will the 717 survive?" debate.
71 DIA: Good for Boeing. Good for Airtran. Just like ANA and the 737NGs, this is a great move for the economics of Airtran and their strategic growth plan.
72 Osteogenesis: JAL777: Wow... 145 (95 Frim + 50 Options) 737's in 2 days. Congratulations to both Boeing and Airtran. Soon, there will be no Airbuses registed in the
73 Greg: I would think the Reuters article to be more correct. I think AirTran has been relatively happy with their 717's (they have not been trouble free by a
74 UN_B732: The 717 might be eliminated, airTran is the only real customer...and the 737-600 is the same size, but isn't the 737-600 a little heavy?? -UN
75 4holer: Looks like the 717 addition is official now, right?
76 N707PA: WINGLETS!!! WINGLETS!!! WINGLETS!!! PLEASE GET THE WINGLETS!!!!!!!!!!!! At the press conference today, the backdrop showed a -700 with winglets. It so
77 Flyer732: Just look at www.boeing.com That holds the answer for the winglet question.
79 Brons2: that font on the fuselage is a little big!
80 RIX: "xenophobic zealousness in the majority of the population"??? What are you talking about? Do you think Americans are xenophobic? Then you don't know w
81 Mikephotos: That Boeing photos looks good, here's my verison that some of your have already seen: Michael
82 RayChuang: Now that FL will get 73G's and 738's, I wonder how much expansion will they do to the US West Coast, especially given that the winglet-equipped 73G an
83 Luv2fly: Delta already has paid for that honor. Alaska has paid to be Disney lands official carrier.
84 Luv2fly: And I believe that LCC's do not really look to give money away paying for useless titles. Like naming sporting venues after themselves for one.
85 Chi-town: With this new order from Airtran. It sounds like everyones jumping on the bandwagon. haha Nice job Airtran
86 PSU.DTW.SCE: Sorry, I've been away for the past week, a big week in the industry too, AirTran has a firm order for 14 more 717's also. 10 of those are new 4 are us
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