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United Express Takes On Add'l Mesa Jets  
User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Mesa and United have agreed to up to 60 RJs, with the firm deal for 20 CRJ-700s and 15 CRJ-200s.

By 2005, the United Express system will have these aircraft.

50 CRJ-700s (30 SkyWest, 20 Mesa)
309 CRJ-200 (105 Air Wisconsin, 55 SkyWest, 134 Atlantic Coast, 15 Mesa)
17 BAe136 (Replacements TBD)

The total RJ fleet will be 376.

This is a significant ramp-up in UAX operations.

FYI.

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User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1878 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

So is UA just doing away with that plan that united announced months ago to add Q200s from MESA at the DEN hub?

User currently offlineMattnrsa From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 393 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

How would the total RJ count of 376 compare to the RJ counts of the other US Majors?

User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

UAL is way behind the other majors in RJ's due to the very restrictive ALPA contract. That contract was renegotiated to allow for a signifigant ramp up of RJ's during the chapter 11 negotiations.

he main sticking point now with Rj's is the ACA contract.


User currently offlineBigtidi From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

I was curious about United's scope clause on RJ operations. I see that Mesa will operate the CRJ 700 for UAL but how about the CRJ 900 series. With the up and coming low cost competition that UAL is encountering from Frontier at its Denver hub the CRJ 900 seems to make the most sense. It can carry more passengers for a small increase in costs. I believe that America West has found this out as they operate their RJ's in Phoenix, America's largest low fare base. They (Mesa) have transferred some 50 seaters out East (USAirways system) in favor of larger 700 and 900 series. So is an express carrier currently banned from operating RJs with more than 70 seats? Or if not could we see additional larger RJ's in Denver or elsewhere in the UAL express system?

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3931 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

This new undercut the rest of the regionals sweat shop we'll fly these jets for practically nothing because we're spineless Mesa pilots deal, is in addition to the 10 dashes they'll fly for UA at DEN.

TO answer the question about scope - each airline has a different scope clause with their regional affiliates. UA's have recently been renegotiated in their bankruptcy filings. So time will tell where those 70 seaters will be flown.



AZJ


User currently offlineMidEx717 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

What's a BAe136? Should it be a BAe146 instead.

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2262 times:

With the new contracts for the UAL pilots they are losing pilots at an alarming rate. I would love to know how they can justify laying off 60 pilots a month until the end of the year. I have heard that number by many pilots, they have reached I believe 1998 seniority.

Does anybody know if skywest has any 70 seat RJ'S? and if not are they planning on getting some? or AWAC or ACA?

I know AWAC doesnt have any 70 seaters but are they planning to buy any?

ual 777 contrail


User currently offlinePizzapolli From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

ACA doesn't have any 70 seaters either and of now has no plans to buy any.

User currently offlinePizzapolli From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Are any of Mesa's 10 Dash 8's in that are used for UA Express in the UA livery? And if so does anyone have a picture?

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