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User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1547 times:


I have a question for you, why doesn't QF dim the cabin lights during take off and landing - particularly when coming in / out of Sydney which is surely spectacular at any time of the day - but particularly pretty at night?

Other airlines do it.

Is it a sysops issue?



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User currently offlineWLG-Spotter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Further to Mx5_boy's question, I noticed "most" if not all airlines maintain the practice to ensure that passenger cabin windows are open during takeoff and landings. I remember someone told me the reason for that before, but I can't remember now. Some can anyone of your who knows answer this?.. Why do airlines make sure cabin windows are open during takeoff and landing?


User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

WLG-Spotter - the reason I have been given for this is that in the event of something untoward happening outside, someone will be able to see it, and bring it to the attention of the crew.


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User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Gday everyone,

Most airlines dim or turn off the cabin lights during night take-offs and landings so that in the event of an accident such as a fuselage separation, in which the lights would most certainly go out, the eyes of everyone on board would already be reasonably adjusted to the darkness outside.

This would speed up reaction time rather than wait a few seconds for the eyes to adjust. Remember, in situations like these, a second can make a big difference.

I too have noticed that QF leave their cabin lights on during TO's and landings while spotting in MEL and SIN, have also noticed that NH (All Nippon Airways) does the same.


User currently offlineMarara From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

QF Crew response was that it is to make the aircraft easier to see from outside at night. I have heard that from a few different crews.

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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4748 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

Well... not every airline have the same safety practice. Thai is also another airline guilty of this.

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User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

Other airlines dim the cabin lights so that if there is an emergency during takeoff or landing pax will be able to see better if the emergency lighting comes on.

What gives and who is right?


User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1237 times:


As evident from the different reasons provided, I think we can say that the SOP for cabin lights during TO and landing is really up to the individual airline and what they deem to be company policy.

Most airlines I know dim the cabin lights, with QF, NH and TG (as mentioned by 'Ryanair!!!') being the exception. I know there are probably many more out there besides these airlines.

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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
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Not always up to the airlines themselves...

In the UK (and I would guess most other countries) it is a legal requirement for the cabin lights to be dimmed when departing/arriving during the hours of darkness. Only in conuntries where there is no regulation on the subject can airlines choose their own company policy.


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