Englandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3 Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3299 times:
Just read the following very interesting (but rather unlikely!) rumour on Pprune:
"hiya,sorry to add yet more cofusion but heard(just on galley FM) that European are to gain 2 ex BA 747-400 for ther winter to operate a weekly Gatwick- Sydney route.Has anybody else heard this?Be interesting to see if it materialises."
APP From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 546 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3265 times:
I've read in a Gatwick newsletter that the tour company 'Austravel' are putting on Gatwick-Sydney flights for 10 weeks over the (UK) winter. This would tie in with what yoy've been hearing I guess.
Austravel may well be doing a similar operation to 'TravelCityDirect' with their Orlando flights, who are also using European 747's. (though ex. B.A. 747-200's)
Hope this helps.
Ikarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3076 times:
I know you can book flights on European to Sydney (a travel office has a large poster advertising "Fly to Sydney with European Airlines for ..." in their window), but I thought they're using the 4 742s they have got fom BA...
Perhaps the source of the rumour is a person who doesn't quite know all their abbreviations and uses "744" for all 747s... There's actually quite a lot of people around who seem to do that
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10047 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3008 times:
I agree with Udo.
The new livery (now applied on two aircraft) is not only one, but several steps into the wrong direction. And on top it looks older than the old one. I can´t stand all these white aircraft with blue tails anymore. Hiding in the crowd, is that the right way for an underdog airline?
Zizou From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 1531 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2695 times:
Apparently its with ex-BA B747-200s. Has anyone heard the same? Also, looking at the prices (from an Australian perspective), they look the same as you would get with Qantas/BA/Singapore Airlines etc, Actually, with Malaysian Airlines you can fly to London from Sydney for some $200 AUD cheaper and also get a free night in Kuala Lumpur thrown in.
Aussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2624 times:
A mate who flies for them is really looking forward to operating one of these flights. The trip for crew is going to be 21 days and they have 6 days basically in each destination. The stop is in colombo and so would like to know whether you can book a holiday and stop of in sri lanka either way. Also are they going to operate a premium class service as well. Any help will be appreciated. Great for crews but will those old classics make the run down and back with no problems, ie technical delays?
Airchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2544 times:
Sounds like a good trip for the crews. According to the Austravel website they are not advertising any stopovers in Columbo. They are advertising 3 classes: economy and economy plus (31in legroom) and deluxe (50in + ptv's) As for the technical reliability we'll have to wait and see but I haven't heard too many problems with them so far.
Jupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 802 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2536 times:
Personally from the point of view of someone living in SYD it will be great to see these classics in SYD once again. Although the times aren't great beggars can't be picky !!!
Actually the times are very interesting for this end, it will be getting dark about the time it is due in, so we will all be hoping they are early, 1/2 hour would be nice. However on the departure side a half hour delay will mean it will miss the curfew, for Europeans sake I hope the aircraft are reliable (although at least 1 delay overnight would be nice).
The departures direct to CMB should be interesting, I'm guessing a 10 to 11 hour flight, with a full pax load (bugger all cargo though) will see little runway left at the point of rotation.
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4690 posts, RR: 45 Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2403 times:
On a side note, I think it makes a lot of sense for EAL to paint their 747 in a predominantly white scheme. Isn't their focus subleasing their aircraft to other carriers? This way they just have to apply the customer's name to an already white fuselage - saves a lot of repainting costs after the contract has been completed.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Aussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
Thanks for the info guys.......does anybody know flight departure times and days yet? The premium cabin will be OK depending on what they offer and how much? Sad you cannot stay in CMB as well, what a great change to the usual LAX or SIN or BKK?????
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12948 posts, RR: 79 Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
The airline was very happy with the ex-BA B747-236s, they were pleasantly surprised by their good condition.
This airline also enquired about running (presumably with BA support), Concorde charters post October.
I won't repeat myself as to why it won't and cannot happen, but it was a low-key, genuine query, not a PR motivated thing like the CEO of a certain other UK carrier indulged in.
DoorsToManual From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2141 times:
As someone else mentioned, and for those who fly down to SYD once or more a year on this Kangaroo route, the fares do not seem to be that cheap, given Austravel advertises similar fares on airlines which allow free (or even paid for) stopovers, i.e. JAL or Emirates.
But if it was 499 pounds on short notice, or a set price on set dates, then it's a good deal, given fares to Australia rise to well over 1000 pounds if you leave the booking too late (i.e. now).
Bmi From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 321 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
im a sales consultant for tui uk here, and thomson oz and nz have started selling the european 747 flights to Sydney. The flights currently start with thomson from £549 and operate via CMB. No stopover is permitted and pax must remain onboard whilst the refueling is done.
ive just come back from aussie and i flew with BA and QF then went back to do DXB with EK from BHX. I personally found flying the 744 a bad experience with BA let alone have their shabby old 747s flying to Oz with European.