Qb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4 Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3240 times:
"La Presse" newspaper reported this afternoon on its website that Boeing got a new order for 22 planes. There were not any more details. Anyone heard of that? I've tried to confirm that from other sources, but with no luck so far...
Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
AvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2430 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3132 times:
I'm a bit surprised to see 767s included-been awhile since anyone (discounting the U.S. Air Force tanker lease) ordered these. Things certainly have picked up for Boeing in the last week since the Paris Air Show-they must finally be putting more effort into their sales drive and the economy is picking up, too. I doubt they can even up their current order deficit to Airbus in the remaining months of this year but each new day seems to bring surprises. We'll see.
AvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2430 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3021 times:
Sorry, ConcordeBoy, I missed hearing about the March 2003 order. The rest aren't 'eons' ago but I'd consider them 'awhile', in contrast to the all-too-frequent announcements of A330 orders. I should get on Boeing's website to doublecheck before I make such comments, right? What really will shock (but also delight me) will be hearing about a 757 order; that will really be newsworthy! Didn't mean to tick you off...
It would be great to list a few more to help counter comments like this...
Username: Manni, From Belgium
"101!!! widebodies in the first half of 2003, that's an incredible big amount of aircraft compared to Boeing's 4 widebodies. Last month Airbus delivered the 500th A330/340 family aircraft to Cathay Pacific, the aircraft having the honour to be number 500 is an A340-600. With 47 A330 ordered so far this year compared to 0 767 aircraft, Airbus must be laughing out loud when they'r milking that cashcow."
He obviously hadn't seen the news on the new 767 order, yet. Let us know about any others. Thanks!
N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2818 times:
My W.A.G. is that this is a JAL order as well. They have plenty of 767s and are in the market for narrowbodies.
As far as Manni's commentary, I wouldn't worry too much. As far as I know, Airbus has no cash cow airplane with the possible exception of the 319 and 320. The 380 could become one someday. Actually they might have one with the 330-200. The 764 unfortunately is at a disadvantage in that niche.
Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2618 times:
Worry about my comment? That's the last thing I expect from anyone here as this was definitely not the intention of my post. Sorry if I hurt your little feelings N79969 and Avobserver. But... by digging thispost up and adding your very valuable comment you made me laugh, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
AvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2430 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2493 times:
Just for the record, Manni, I was merely using your comment as an example, not targeting you because of it. No hard feelings, here! Actually, I've pissed off many Boeing fans (including myself!) by commenting on Airbus's amazing success string as of late. While it's true we won't know better until at least yearend, it seems to me a significant trend is underway. I agree with you that the A330, particularly the -200, is unbeatable in its' market segment-for now. I caution you, however, that its' current seeming 'cash cow' status, could be jeopardized by the now all-but-certain launch of the 7E7. When that happens, the A330 as is has only a few years to ink up orders to those airlines that can't wait for the 7E7. After that, it will need major revamping at great cost to remain competitive unless Airbus decides to dump it for a new, more competitive design. Even so, Airbus does have a virtually protected market niche in the A380, there will be no direct challenger to it for the forseeable future. The A320 series can carry on as is, for the time being, until Boeing either adapts 7E7 technology to the 737NG (very improbable) or junks it for a new design. With continued A340 success too, Airbus is sitting pretty but is not invincible and a misjudge of Boeing strategy could still cost it badly. Time will tell.