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"Smart" Airplane Seats  
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

A UK firm is developing new airliner seats that could be used to monitor passenger behavior and physical condition. For instance it could (theoretically) detect if a passenger is unusually nervous (terrorist) or may suffer an impending DVT problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/04/international/europe/04SEAT.html?8hpib

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User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1847 times:

Are you kidding me?

I'm sorry...but WHAT airline is going to put this in coach?!?!

Great concept, but not very realistic in terms of day-to-day airline ops!

-Derek


User currently offlineKorg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1834 times:

I hope God is with the people that Don't like flying either!


Please excuse my English!
User currently offlineAlexchao From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

Wouldn't it be cheaper for airlines to just increase seat pitch and throw in a PTV in every seat?

-alexchao


User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

I'm not gonna pay the extra price for that crap.
When is this hysteria going to stop?! There's no 100% security, but by now I guess we are at 95%-98%...you can't make much more!



"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

I would show as nervous whenever I fly..just cause I'm nervous whenever I fly.
-UN
So does that make me a terrorist???



What now?
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

I really did not have an opinion when I posted the link...just found it interesting. Perhaps my summary was not that good. I think the seat is a technology demonstrator for that firm rather than a product developed to improve security per se. Security is just one possible application of this technology.

I do not see this as particularly intrusive technology. Your computer or even car seat adjusts to you and your habits. Further, there really is no privacy aboard airplanes anyway. I am sure they will take into account nervous flyers when developing any product that is to be deployed.


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

I read about this on the BBC.
I can just see Gendarme-like American cabin crew members call law enforcement personnel upon arrival because a tall passenger fidgeted in his seat due to impending DVT on a transpacific flight. Then John Ashcroft will lock him up without due process for the next 2 years.


User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Distinguishing between a genuinely nervous passenger and a terrorist would be very difficult (read: expensive and/or unreliable) but not impossible.

The DVT side is a good idea too, but again it might be difficult to justify if they can pay rather less for a package of 2cm extra seat pitch, tweaked seat shapes, a short exercise/wellbeing video on the PTV, and a DVT prevention article in the inflight mag that nobody reads.



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1569 times:

I don't think it would be necessarily that hard to distinguish between genuine troublemakers and nervous flyers. I would think the latter group would exhibit greater nervousness at takeoff, landing, or through turbulence and a computer could discount that through some algorithm. Further if someone is nervous from start to finish, that could be discounted as well.

However if someone exhibits anxiety for no apparent reason (no crying baby, argumentative spouse etc), at least the cabin crew could check up on the person if they are okay or to just keep an eye out.


User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1516 times:

That means no more sex onboard?


Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
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