IslandHopper From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 327 posts, RR: 2 Posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3496 times:
Since jumping on the 747 bandwagon in the early 70s only to jump off it soon after, Continental hasn't been a fan of the 747. In fact, until I went to Mojave a couple years ago for the first time, I had no idea they had operated 747s since then. There were two parked 747-200s in CO newest colors at Mojave for a couple years, but on my most recent visit (last weekend), they had disappeared.
Were these the only two 747-200s Continental operated? I'm assuming they inherited these oddballs from the People's Express merger. If not, where else did they come from? When did they park their 747 fleet? Finally, what happened to the two that were stored at Mojave...scrapped I assume?
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3330 times:
CO had more 747s than 2. I don't recall the exact number, but yes they all came from the People Express merger. Do a search on airliners.net photos and you will see CO 747s in their various stages after People Express- you will see them in actual People Express colors but with the red ball and Continental titles, then they get changed over to Continental red and gold before getting changed over to the blue and gold. I was at Mojave in 1999 and I saw 5 or 6 CO 747s parked there. I assume the 747s either probably went to a cargo airline or got scrapped.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3274 times:
CO had the 747's prior to the People Express merger to service there South Pacific flights to Australia and New Zealand. Tho they never had a huge fleet of them like NWA or UAL has. Also I believe CO Micronesia the largest plane they had was the DC10's.
JOSEMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3206 times:
They did get configured with BusinessFirst seats. I flew HNL-NRT-HNL when BusinessFirst was just being inroduced and got a regular Business Class seat on the way out and BusinessFirst on the return a week later (at that time only a few planes had been reconfigured yet). It was in the early 90's, although I'm not sure about the exact year.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
Continental's 747 fleet was a mixture of ex-PeoplExpress (themselves ex-AZ/IB) machines, as well as ex LH aircraft and perhaps a few factory fresh ones as well. There were a total of 8 I believe in the fleet, with the last ones retired in 1997. The 747's were often used on flights to and from Hawaii and to Tokyo, Guam, as well as to Europe (a few rotated on the EWR-FRA, LGW, ORY routes) and occasionally, IAH-LGW and IAH-ORY, before the Paris route was transferred to Roissy-CDG.
The 747 also operated CO's SEA-NRT route, but that was sold to AMR in '90 as CO entered Chapter 11 for the second time.
IslandHopper From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 327 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2879 times:
Luv2Fly says "CO had the 747's prior to the People Express merger to service there South Pacific flights to Australia and New Zealand."
I was under the impression that CO dumped their initial 747s in the mid 70s and didn't own them again until the PE merger. So DID Continental own any during this time? When did they aquire the ex-LH birds and how many?
Justplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 725 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2728 times:
The PeoplExpress 747-200B aircraft that went to Continental were early model ones from Alitalia (2 -243B) and Qantas (4 -238B); there were no former Iberia planes. Continental also acquired one early model -230B, which had flown with Lufthansa and British Caledonian.
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1936 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
I think you are correct. The original 747's from the 70's were gone by 1977 or thereabouts. The 747 did not return to the Continental fleet until February of 1987 after the PEOPLExpress merger. Continental also used 747's (the ex PE ones) from EWR to DEN, LAX, and SFO.
Iahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3480 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2523 times:
CO picked up 8 747s from the PE merger (2 -100s: Ships 010/011, 6 -200s:Ships 020-025) and then acquired a 9th from BA(Ship 019). After retirement I know that Ship 010 flew for TWA for a while, but I believe the others, if not parted out, have remained unused ever since
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2249 times:
"Burnt meatball"....awesome...thanks for the laugh! I loved it!
I flew on a CO747 on the MEL-AKL route 12/26/87 and then AKL-SYD 12/29/87.
When Sen. Elizabeth Dole was Secy. of Trans. under George Bush Sr., she took the SEA-NRT away from UA and handed it to Continental. Continental couldn't handle it, lost it to American. United got the authority back under Bill Clinton's administration and American since cancelled their SEA-NRT. So, United back on top! Go United!!!!!
I only fly United, but I will say that I'm glad Continental survived the Frank Lorenzo days. Given the alliance with NWA and DL, I sense a merger/consolidation there.
Tbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1901 times:
Continental's early 747's flew LAX-HNL and, I believe ORD-LAX and were 747-100's (I think). "The Proud Bird with the Golden Tail" was one of the original 747 operators (I was in HNL when the inaugural came in and remember seeing Bob Six). Their marketing scheme was terrific. Each cabin was named as a "Room" and the planes had lounges all over. Then, the fuel crisis. Continental then was a far cry better then than CO today.