Airsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34 Posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3166 times:
German media are reporting that the low cost carriers of Lufthansa, SAS and British Midland, namely germanwings, bmiBaby and snowflake will form a kind of alliance.
Apparently, these airlines realised passengers are starting to build connexions on their own, so they decided to take advantage of it and rather promote a germanwings/bmiBaby connexion than risking the passenger taking a Ryanair flight instead.
The plans for cooperation include:
- interline connexion tickets, including check-through baggage
- mutual access to reservation systems
- exchange of crews (and possibly aircraft)
DoorsToManual From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3070 times:
I thought the whole point of low-cost airlines was to take the cost elements out of the equation; the above could result in lots of refunds, and planes waiting on the ground, which most low-cost airlines say they can't afford.
Mmmm, sure, they're trying to convenience their passengers, but will this result in higher fares? Already people are simply moving to BA etc. if the fare difference narrows to a reasonable gap, so I hope these airlines mentioned are confident of their plans!!
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3065 times:
Since low-cost, no-frills flying has become a very serious alternative (and threat) to the short- and medium haul networks of the established airlines, this could become very well a model for the future operations of the European network of Star Alliance. There have been - so far uncommented - rumors about LH considering to outsource some their domestic (and European?) flying to Germanwings for some time, so if they can manage to design a low-cost product, which can also be implemented for connecting traffic, they have a very competitive strategy for the continental flights in their hands.
IMO airlines like LH would probably prefer to outsource much of their domestic and short-haul international network, however complicated legal issues (most importantly the inevitable resistance of their unions) will prevent them from becoming competitive on short routes again.
This is only a very brief statement on a very interesting and complex issue.
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Tristar4ever From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 84 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2863 times:
This seems like a very good idea, each airlines web site could have the combined route map of the three, this would allow people to create their own connections, much like they do anyway with ryanair and easyjets larger networks.
this means it would essentialy be the passengers themselves creating a series of individual flights across the three networks, iliminating the cost of `inter lining` the flights, keeping the fares low, while giving people access to many more destinations and keeping them away from the competition.
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2800 times:
This might take away some of the simplification that true LCCs contain but then bmibaby is about as low-cost as BWIA is high yielding.
If you take into account the new EU proposals for compensating passengers for delayed flights etc this could become quite pricy for the airlines involved.
WMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2671 times:
Now we just need the US LCC's to take some advantage of this. More and more I see people flying to MDW on C8 and connecting to FL or F9 and on occassion WN...but WN will more than likely never ally themselves with another airline.
Johnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2517 times:
i wonder why they haven´t come up with this from the beginning? i mean, first their was bmibaby, then germanwings and snowflake just following months behind.
ok, LH wasn´t fond of creating a low-cost airline and so they waited before coming up with 4U, but aligning those no frills-airlines now will generate some major costs...
needless to say that through-checking one´s baggage from first to final destination will make travel easier for the customers of those three LCCs, but i highly doubt those airlines will benefit from that from marketing perspective. i believe that most people traveling on LCCs do not expect and in most cases are not familiar with such a service.
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