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New Virgin Upperclass  
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3630 times:

Virgin is launching a new upperclass.





All info can be found at http://www.upperclasssuite.com/index.php?page=18

What do you think about it ?

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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3598 times:

Goodness now that is something different.

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3566 times:

The current seat is not a big succes. You are laying on the ground, you get locked in when in the sleeping mode etc.

This one surely is completely different.

I think Virgin takes a major risc ...

Sleeping comfort will be very good (probably), however the cabin is very full of seats & privacy dividers, if you are looking for space & relaxation ...

Also the cabin configuration is very much tailored for individuals it seems ...

However you have to admire them for taking the risc & trying something new ..


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3527 times:

Why does this new Upper Class seating remind me so much of BA's Club World seating?  Confused

Mind you, it looks less confining that Club World, though. It appears these pictures are from the Upper Class configuration on the A340-600.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3503 times:

My main reservation is the inability to really look of the windows (but how much do passengers value that?)

RayChuang,

Those pictures are actually from the B747-400 since the A340-600 will only have 3 seats per row (1-1-1).

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineAF-A319 From France, joined Oct 1999, 603 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3497 times:

Just One Word :

FANTASTIC!!

The creative team really made a good job. However, I don't know how the typical biz traveller will react.

[Edited 2003-07-16 15:29:25]

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3488 times:

Teahan,

If that is from a 747-400 these must be very wide seats!  Wow! They look bigger than the First Class seats on BA.

However, the need to literally flip over the seat to get the flat bed might not be such a good idea, though.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

The dark lighting must add to the ambience.
-UN



What now?
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

This is very intersting.

I am going through the website now. Regardless of whether it actually works, innovation does seem to have been at work at Virgin Atlantic.

Virgin Atlantic is 49% owned by Singapore Airlines Pte Limited.



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3406 times:

Looks new and exciting - they are certainy innovative.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

Well the Experience part was very informative though the picture angles are a bit confusing and it's hard to really see how big it is.

And damn them for making it 1.5" longer than the Singapore Airlines SpaceBed! But it is 5" narrower.

The aisle access feature obviously shows that Virgin have listened to customers. Unfortunately it's a little difficult for certain airlines' passengers who have seats that convert to sleeping positions of a certain angle to step over a seat next to them which is in that position to get to the aisle.

All seats forward facing? Looks like a jibe.



The comparison against other airlines can be misleading as All Nippon Airways, Japan Airlines System and another airline all have flat beds in Business Class and this should have been included in the comparison. However, one notable omission is the comparison against Singapore Airlines. Good show considering they own 49% of them.

Also apparently the seat does not have to be upright on landing. You could sleep on landing?!

Anyway, very nice.




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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Fabulous !
Cant wait to try it out.
However, I must add that the current Virgin product is very good too. However, although they have excellent hardware, their young cabin crew can often be lackadaisical, bored, and rather nonchalant about delivering service.


User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3295 times:


Not only is the comparison against other airlines business classes misleading, it is also factually incorrect. Cathay Pacific's new business class features an inflight bar, on flights to london, even though Virgin says they don't have such a feature.


User currently offlineAirchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Here's some info from the VS website. Note this is a comparison with BA First as opposed to Club World.

Comparison with British Airways' First Class product:

........................VAA Upper Class Suite...BA First Class.......................
Length_________________79.5"_____________76"
Shoulder space/width_____33"______________19.5"
Lower bed width_________22"______________19.5"
Limo to/from airport______Yes_______________No
Drive thru check in_______Yes_______________No
Onboard bar_____________Yes______________No
Inflight beauty therapy____Yes______________No
Return ticket to New York__£4631___________£7603
Return ticket to New York on Concorde £9223




Biggidy biggidy bong
User currently offlineKjet12 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 975 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

I have to say that the seat looks to be a dissapointment. I don't see what makes it any more special than other airlines first or business class seats other than maybe the dimentions. I don't like the way the seats face. They should have done what UAL did and make the window seats face the window. I don't like that one must get out of the seat to convert it into a bed. The suites also look quite confining. I didn't understand why they compared it to the competetors Business class instead of their First class. My opinion could change though if I had the opporotunity to fly in it. But for now, give me a UAL first suite.

Kris



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User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Is it just me or do these seat seem a tad creepy? Looks like David Lynch could have designed them for one of his movies.

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

What I like in business class ; watch a good movie, with the seat in a 45 degrees recline seems not possible. The recline seems limited.

The fact that everyone can step out easily and get a cocktail, champagne & snack at the bar a few meters away is excellent of course.



User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

"But for now, give me a UAL first suite"

Yes, but Virgins Upper Class is less expensive than UAs First Class. And for all the flightiness of their crew, they are still better than UA's.


User currently offlineStarG From Indonesia, joined Mar 2003, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

Why can't I open the page? Anybody else encountering this problem?

StarG


User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

I too cannot access the page, and all the pictures posted are X's.

User currently offlineMEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Only 17 J-class seats on the 346? Are they missing more seats in that picture? That's down from near 40 J-class seats if not more.


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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

Uh...you have to get up and fold down the seat back to make it into a bed?!
It should have been a reclinable design.

Interesting...but not too practical.


User currently offlineAsbg From Israel, joined Feb 2000, 538 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

I love the design!!! Very funky  Laugh out loud

What is the purpose of the round chair?


Sam.


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

Is it just me or is Virgin Atlantic introducing new seat layouts twice as often as any other airline? I guess with a smallish fleet they can afford it...

But still, in a few years every single plane will have a different seat map!  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Branson gives an inch to increase passenger miles
RICHARD ALLEN
THE great transatlantic liners fought for passengers by selling luxury and speed.

Yesterday their modern successors, the airlines, launched a new war of words on whose cabins were more luxurious for the first-class passenger.

Sir Richard Branson, chairman of Virgin Atlantic, fired the opening shots by dressing as rapper Eminem to take a chainsaw to a British Airways' first-class seat.

The dungaree-clad tycoon demolished the polystyrene model of the BA seat.

Sir Richard was launching his airline's £50m revamp of its most expensive seats, called Upper Class after a relaunch in 2000 and yesterday renamed Upper Class Suite.

The Herald.



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25 StarG : I think it is a very nice J-class seat/bed. BA's is flat but narrow. This looks spacious. Can the seat recline or just be stuck in two positions: upri
26 Djmatthews : Will there be any improvments made to Economy and Premium Economy?
27 Jmc777 : The new seats have airbags built into the seatbelts which allows pax to sit in any position.
28 Airchabum : Hello all I've just been over and had a go on the new seat in a cabin mock-up. I have to say I'm very impressed and it's a vast improvement on the cur
29 Aussiestu : No guys and girls cannot say it is great. I think the BA Club world is better and more private, maybe the pics on here are not that great. I too am a
30 FLY777UAL : Amazing! It will be interesting to see how the flying public reacts to this! If they had not done it in such a weird design with the inward facing her
31 GotAirbus : Hmm... If I have to describe it, it's like privacy and elegance... ...with the idea that airlines are trying to cram more seats together on an aircraf
32 GVRGN : They are going to have to change more than the seats to get upper class back to it's original success. The VS service in all classes has slipped consi
33 Post contains images Airchabum : Aussiestu Don't knock it 'til you've seen it! I can assure you it's much more impressive in the flesh. Also I disagree about the privacy thing...I've
34 Teahan : Airchabum, To answer a few questions.... The A340-600 will also be 4-abreast but due to the narrower cabin the seats will That's interesting because t
35 Post contains images Airchabum : Jeremiah Yes I know what it says above, and I thought it was odd that VS would sacrifice potentially 1/4 of their Upper Class revenue on every A340 fl
36 Airzim : Are they still planning on having these new seats in the Upper Deck of the 747-400's? If so what would be the layout? Perhaps one on each side going t
37 Shankly : sitting sideways during t/o & landing?...that'll play havoc on the senses...a gimmick too far i think
38 Baldguy : A lot of guys on airliners.net are crazy about IFE and PTVs....I see a problem with this seat in that the window (for 1/2 the pax) is directly opposit
39 Luv2fly : Well I am not sure how the experience will actually translate experience wise, the pictures make it sure look GREAT!
40 LH423 : I have to agree that the angle that the seat faces out, doesn't provide much in the way of privacy. I think it's definitely a great idea...but one tha
41 Cathay Pacific : The lighting looks great, however, I have some concern over the angle of the seat.
42 V1-Rotate : Ater what I've seen,don't see BA too worried over this(even though VS bangs " on and on" about BA on the website) The J2000 seat was appalling in my o
43 QANTASFOREVER : I for one and absolutely sick and tired of these pods. When I sit in them I feel like I'm about to have a severe attack of claustrophobia or be beamed
44 Hpa318 : They should have made them like AA FLagship suites, that swivel around so that if your want to look out the window you can and straight forward also.
45 Post contains links and images Hpa318 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Greg Vaughn
46 Shankly : ...also forgot to seek opinions as to what would be the brace position? Seems like you've got a fair chance of having your pelvis crushed in a surviva
47 Ratrap2001 : Im back *again* hehe I like never post anymore cuz Im always busy but WOAH! Now there's umthin u dont see every day...but why does nobody ever do anyt
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