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BBC Reports Walkout At BA  
User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6057 times:

The BBC has reported that all BA staff at T1 LHR have walked out, resulting in the cancellation of all flights this evening. Reasons have yet to be given, but more details to follow at the BBC website, www.bbc.co.uk/news.

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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13208 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

I got a text saying the same, don't know why though, BA staff are not militant, so they've been clearly upset about something big.

User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5973 times:

Interesting story to say the least, and definitely not expected... we'll see what the always-trustworthy  Big grin BBC report. Nothing on BA website a few minutes ago...

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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13208 posts, RR: 77
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Not much so far, though that should change;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3078911.stm


User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

It's reportedly about new procedures for staff gaining access to the terminals according to BBC Ceefax.



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5916 times:

Trying to get through to British Airways United Kingdom via telephone for an explanation.


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User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

The BBC says 'BA flights from Heathrow Airport's Terminal One have been grounded because of industrial action by the airline's staff,' adding that all T1 departures for this evening are cancelled.

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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

Any they're gonna love you for that. Surely the sensible thing to do would to let British Airways help the passengers affected by this, all BA flights from T1 have been cancelled. Its a friday night, and the first day of the start of the summer holiday in the UK - don't you think they have enough work on their hands from people actually booked to travel tonight?  Insane


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User currently offlineFloris From Netherlands, joined Jun 2003, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5867 times:

Singapore_Air: why on earth are you calling BA if you are not booked on a flight yourself? They have plenty of work to do for people who are booked on a flight this evening!

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5863 times:

British Airways Newcastle - main call centre - says that there is a strike, no, walkout happenning in Terminal 1.

I pretended to have a friend travelling to Edinburgh on BA1465.

The friend would have to phone the main BA call center and rebook on flights. They would "hope" and "imagine" that flights will depart tomorrow albeit with possible delays.

The nice young girl I spoke to also found it amusing that I said that she probably wouldn't have a very good evening. She sounded nice and sounds like a good future wife.

Anyway, not much info yet.



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User currently offlineSaab340 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 320 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

Yahoo just posting a release: http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030718/airlines_ba_strike_1.html

Paul


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5831 times:

"BA has advised passengers planning to travel on one of its flights on Friday evening to call 0800 727 800 for further information."

BBC

The number is engaged at the moment



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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5826 times:

Once again, another example of how unions ruin this industry.


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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5801 times:

"The number is engaged at the moment"

I'm not suprised with you appearing to cream yourself over this incident. Give people who really need information a chance to get through and stop busy bodying around.



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

"All of our agents are still busy. Please continue to hold, we will be with you as soon as possible."

Right, I've got better things to do. Bye!



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5787 times:

What a reaction. Only trying to provide information here.  Insane


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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5775 times:
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Some of the inbound evening flights are now diverting (BA819 from CPH, BA971 from HAM & returning back to sunny MAN is BA1403)

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User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

So I guess PM Tony Blair is stuck in Washington. He did come over on a BA 777 right?


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User currently offlineFloris From Netherlands, joined Jun 2003, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5766 times:

Singapore_Air, you are joking right? I mean, I cannot image anybody being annoying and arrogant enough to start making such stupid phone calls while other people who are booked on a flight this evening are not able to get through.

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5764 times:

"She sounded nice and sounds like a good future wife."
Hmm...

Why are you ringing that number if you're not travelling? It will just mean that paying passengers who are affected will have to wait longer...

Edit: While I was typing away, another 5 or so posts got in front of me  Laugh out loud

[Edited 2003-07-18 19:57:44]

User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5683 times:

Once again, another example of how unions ruin this industry.

Boeing 757/767, read the article and discover that this is an unofficial strike without any union endorsement.


User currently offline747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5662 times:

www.skynews.co.uk reports that it has to do with the way employees have access to the terminals and also refers to shift monitoring procedures.
I cant tell if it is 2 work issues or 2 descriptions for one issue.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5571 times:

Singapore_Air, surely she doesn't think you're a potential future husband. You'll freak out if she buys tissues that are not ultra-absorbant.

This is odd, I'd like to find out from some BA employees as to why this is happening, because from the releases, it doesn't quite add up. Glad I'm not connecting on BA today!



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User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5547 times:

Offical Word from british-airways.com :

Terminal 1 flight cancellations
Due to unofficial industrial action at London Heathrow Airport terminal 1 by some British airways ground staff, all of the airlines domestic and European flights from terminal 1 have been cancelled.

We advise our customers not to come to terminal 1 this evening but to call the airline on a special customer helpline number.

UK: 0800 727 800 All other customers are recommended to phone their local British Airways office.

Flight to and from Heathrow's terminal 4 are not affected by the unofficial industrial action.

-------------------

They are stress ing that the actions are un-offical. Ts...unions  Yawn
Makes me think of the movie 'Goodfellas'



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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5533 times:

Just been looking on that well known pilot site, and it appears the unnofficial walkout is over the implementation of a swipe card system for staff wishing to gain access to the terminals. A system called iARM (?), which would affect the staff's accessibility in the terminals. Maybe someone else knows more about it.

Meanwhile 60 flights from Heathrow have been cancelled, other airports are taking diverted aircraft, Manchester Airport has warned that it could consequently affect its flights - same goes for the other major airports I guess.

[Edited 2003-07-18 21:24:20]


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25 Ikarus : BBC says it's basically a system which requires staff to swipe a card on access, among other things it's going to monitor their working times. The sys
26 Ned Kelly : Lj: Boeing 757/767, read the article and discover that this is an unofficial strike without any union endorsement. Of course the union would have to s
27 Bobrayner : That's very odd. BA staff hardly have a reputation for striking willy-nilly - so why walk out on a very busy evening over a swipe-card system? It's ha
28 GoAround : Well, in fairness to the people who have walked out, it's not the sort of thing we'd expect from BA and it's definitely not a regular occurrance, so I
29 Ned Kelly : Ikarus. I think that you may have only half the story here (probably as we all have!), and you have made IMO a harsh judgment based on this tiny piece
30 GoAround : Something must have majorly annoyed them... the slowly-growing BBC report now says that there are no confirmations of T1 services tomorrow, but T4 IS
31 GoAround : Just watching ITV news which tells of 89 cancellations and 250 staff walking out, because of new working conditions - BA wants to send them home at qu
32 DoorsToManual : Well, I work in the same job but for another airline at another airport - and for a lower wage (I get paid 5.80 pounds/hour). I don't know what workin
33 Cx flyboy : You could also claim that unions are the ones that have built this industry up to be the respecible careers that they are, and are preventing the rapi
34 GDB : Morale is very low at BA, one minute we are told how bad the situation is, so hardly any pay rise, next we make a profit, so senior management reward
35 GoAround : Just checked the BBC site this morning... all T1 flights cancelled until 10am (BST) as with Paris and Amsterdam flights from T4. Apparently staff in T
36 Lostxistance : Singapore_air i think the BA call centre staff have alot on their hands already helping actual passengers through this crisis without having some non
37 Atco : Whilst I sympathise with any group of workers who have legitimate industrial concerns, they should be brought up through appropriate channels in the a
38 Post contains links Singapore_Air : I could have waited yes. ---- Staff also stopped work in Terminal Four. The airline has cancelled domestic flights on Saturday up until 1000 BST. Flig
39 Star_world : Looks like the situation has become even more serious, all BA T1 flights cancelled until at least 3pm today following another walkout this morning. Al
40 CO/ba : Good for them. As said above the unions that represent BA ground staff are worthless. Maybe if they stoped collecting dues they would do thier jobs a
41 Apuneger : Hi guys and girls, Some of you know that I was on a UK/Ireland spotting trip together with TurboTrent and Sabena 690. Yesterday evening we should have
42 Post contains images DoorsToManual : Sheesh, even intercontinental flights have been disrupted: Heathrow flight operations British Airways has cancelled all domestic and European services
43 Airlinefreak1 : The BA flight from DUBAI (DXB) thats supposed to leave at 9:30 to LHR has been delyaed till 2:00 ...just saw it depart ...
44 Elal106 : Regarding all those passengers who are forced to spend a night in London, is BA liable for compensating their hotel stay?
45 Ikarus : From the bbc website: "The workers were protesting against a new swipe card entry system, called Automated Time Recording, which allows managers to mo
46 Atco : CO/ba "Good for them" !! What! The dissastisfaction with the staff of their Union has what to do with the thousands of passengers who have had their h
47 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Ivan: all the remaining flights from LHR are cancelled apparently today. What a luck we were booked on the BA392! Otherwise we could spend another day
48 GoAround : The reasons they have given for going on strike seem a bit strange... surely there must be more to it than this?! GoAround
49 GKirk : Actually, I dont think you can blame the airline. Its staff are angry (very angry it seems) of their working conditions and started to strike with no
50 GDB : T1 looks dead today, nothing out of T4 until 18.00. A colleague has a wife who works part time over in T1, he showed me what sparked all this. This cl
51 Post contains images Ikarus : buzz-word spouting, know-it-all types not long out of university. What's wrong with us?
52 Post contains images Apuneger : Sabena 690: Yeah, apparantly, we were more than lucky to get rebooked on BA392 LHR BRU. Just think of the fact that we were looking at that family tha
53 Flying Belgian : It's already very very to get efficient treatment from British carriers and handling comapnies in mormal circumstances, I guess it should be even hard
54 DoorsToManual : Quite a shame for BA. My personal opinion is that they are normally excellent - very reliable, and usually good, professional crew (at least on the pl
55 GDB : Actually, I've found out that there was no strike. Sure a bunch of people left their work areas, to have a meeting to discuss the letter that made the
56 Post contains images Sabena 690 : But yesterday, the morning shift turned up for work, only to find that management had cancelled flights! And it is because BA staff was working, that
57 GDB : I know people who work there, you don't. End of story. Anyway I was referring to check in staff who went on shift as normal, as for the rest...who kno
58 Sabena 690 : I know people who work there, you don't. End of story. Anyway I was referring to check in staff who went on shift as normal, as for the rest...who kno
59 Apuneger : I know people who work there, you don't. End of story. --> What a nice discussion: 'I'm right, you're wrong, and that's it!'. Well, maybe we don't, bu
60 Ben : Hi Atco, The problems you mentioned with the congestion in the London TMA are interesting... Is that why there are problems with Special VFR in the TM
61 GDB : If people say they did not go on strike, and then went to work next day expecting to work, then I believe them. You have every right to be angry with
62 Sabena 690 : GDB, I find you have quite an arrogant tone, anyway I will at least stay polite. If people say they did not go on strike, and then went to work next d
63 Post contains images Apuneger : I think I'm gonna write to BA and ask them for a small compensation, something like LHR-JFK-LHR on Concorde and 747-400. Ivan
64 Britair : I have been at Terminal 4 all day today from 9 am to 8pm, volunteering with 100 other BA staff from around the company (most of them from Waterside, j
65 Sabena 690 : Britair - BA must be glad with people like you. But... you are talking about Terminal 4! From what I heard, things at T4 were going a LOT better on fr
66 Post contains images Sabena 690 : have been at Terminal 4 all day today from 9 am to 8pm Your shift started when our waiting period ended BA392 took off around 9.15am (G-EUPJ, A319).
67 Post contains images DoorsToManual : Ah, Britair finally appears!! I thought there was a conspiracy of silence or something..... I must say, I know it' silly, but I am thoroughly enjoying
68 Post contains images Britair : Hi Sabena690, yes Terminal 1 did suffer more on the weekend because of the sheer number of flights, however it was T4 that copped the lot today. We ha
69 Sabena 690 : I'll definitely fly again with BA Same over here, the service of BA is excellent. As long as they keep it up, BA would be my first choice over the con
70 Ikarus : GDB: but be angry to those who caused this mess in the company which would be the check-in desk staff and the baggage handlers, I'm afraid... Sorry GD
71 Britair : Just got back from another day at T4 and happily things are returning to almost normal. The queues were shorter and the whole scene much calmer. Fligh
72 Post contains images Sabena 690 : If I would be Eddington, I would upgrade people like you who help their company in difficult times like this... Very nice to volunteer in a situation
73 Post contains images Britair : Sabena 690...... awwww shucks it was nothin' thanks all the same! I must admit it wasnt the easiest of tasks, but we all got in and did it and tried t
74 GDB : It must be 20 years since this lot went on strike, withdrew labour, whatever you want to call it. Many of the check in staff are part time, many were
75 Dulles : Today's Times says that the system is going to be used to dismiss employees when the load is light and call them to work when it is heavy. Can anybody
76 Richardw : My worst passenger airport experience was 28th December 2000 at LTN when it snowed and nobody went anywhere, it was chaos, lots of anger and false pro
77 Britair : GDB, up until now I have resisted the temptation to respond to your anti-BA posts but I just wanted to say a few things. I think you are separating BA
78 Aussiestu : Its going to take BA a long time to recover from this and in the meantime they have arising problems with engineering looking fed up with their leade
79 CO/ba : "If I would be Eddington, I would upgrade people like you who help their company in difficult times like this..." If you were Rod you wouldn't even sp
80 Post contains links DoorsToManual : Rod apologises to the masses Latest report http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3088423.stm After the scenes at LHR though, it's gonna take some hard w
81 Olympic A-340 : I got stuck there on the 19th from ATH-LHR-MIA. BA lost my bags too. Thankfully after 2 days of SHEER HELL, I found a helpful lady and got standby bac
82 Post contains images Apuneger : Olympic A-340: Welcome to the club of stranded LHR pax . Anyway, did they already find your bags? I heard it was kind of a mess out there with all tho
83 Olympic A-340 : I am getting them tomorrow at 12...HOPEFULLY. Thankgod for a checkin lady that helped me...she FINALLY listened that I was only 17 and I was the first
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