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New Airlines To SFO?  
User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

I live right by SFO and am curious if there are any airlines(domestic or international)scheduled to add new service to this airport. It seems traffic has slowed considerably over the past year or so, which is a shame considering we have the beautiful, brand new international terminal. I'd love to see some new airlines come in.

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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3468 times:

I would say it depends largely on a.) the effect of SARS on Asian travel...UA is increasing its #of flights, as well as upgrading their service back to 744's.
b.) the economy of California, ESPECIALLLY the Bay area, is very down right now, so the lower demand is probably delaying decisions in that regard.


User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

That's good to know that UA is reinstating it's 744's on the SFO-Asia routes. The airport has been so quiet lately, it's scary. At least CX is using it's A340-600's into SFO. I saw one landing over my apartment last week, and those things are amazing! I really hope to see more activity pick up soon, though. It depresses me to see a major airport so dreary.

User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

Emirates is to start non-stop flights to SFO from DXB soon. Also look for SQ non-stop flights from SIN.

User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Aer Lingus perhaps if they ever get the right to access more US gateways.

Jeremiah



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User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

Jeremiah: Is EI actively pursuing more US Gateway cities? I'd think LAX would serve them relatively well with connections to the Bay Area via AA.

Mike: Surely you must have been into SFO in a slow hour? I've been out to SFO on several occasions during the last 8 months and I've seen no huge lull in traffic. Indeed, the queues for security were quite long air traffic seemed to be fairly decent. It certainly is not the ghost town you seem to be making it out to be!

[Edited 2003-07-20 02:19:26]


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User currently offlineAndrewAir From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Will Emirates use 773s for the flight to SFO?



AMc


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

AerLingus,

They most certainly are and SFO is apparently top of the list. The company CEO claims that he would like start flights to up to 16 (!!) more American cities, while that is clearly more talk than anything I think 4-5 more gateways is perfectly realistic.

The user KaiTak has made several good posts on EI's plans so it might be worth doing a search.

Jeremiah



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

If Emirates fly to SFO it will likely be with the A340-500, I thought they were going to LAX first anyway.

User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

I think that a priority of SFO has been to try and get both Alitalia and Swiss back, as well as try to get SAS to reinstate its deferred launch of n/s service to CPH (due to 9/11). SFO International Terminal has massive capacity right now. In addition to both Alitalia and Swissair leaving, and United's cutbacks, both Allegro and Suntrips moved their operations across the Bay to OAK.

A friend of mine who works at UA maintenance at SFO says that Air Canada is trying to renegotiate its lease agreement with SFO, and this might result in them moving to the International Terminal where apparently they can get the premium space at a big discount.






User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

TO AER LINGUS: You very well maybe right.....I might have happened upon SFO during slow periods. I certainly hope that is the case. I was on a LAS-SFO flight with America West(737-300)last week, and when we arrived, there were only five airplanes at gates! I was so surprised!. And this was at 5pm on a Saturday. The terminal and arrivals areas were virtual ghost towns. And it was the same scene for me last month. Very troubling. I live just south of the airport, and the landing path goes right by my apartment, so I have a virtual gage of the ups & downs of traffic. And now seems to definitely be way down. I would love to get an actual percentage of the downturn in traffic at SFO since 2001.

TO UNITED 777: Emirates at SFO!!!! That is so exciting! Do we know an official start date! I will be there first in line to see it!

TO JEREMIAH: If Aer Lingus comes to SFO, I will be the happiest guy in the world! It's one of my favorite airlines. I have never traveled with them, but they are beautiful planes from a beautiful country! I'd love to sit out on my patio and see one come in!

TO PLANENUTZ: I was completely disheartened when Alitalia and Swissair pulled out of SFO. I am hoping they will reinstate service soon. I always loved seeing those Alitalia 763's sitting at the gate off the freeway. The International Terminal has seemed just so sad without them. Here hoping to a return!

Thanks to all of you for your helpful input. I really appreciate it!


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8030 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

I think besides the issue of the effects of 9/11, AZ left SFO because the 767-300(ER) they were using on the MXP-SFO route was too pax/cargo restricted for the operation.

I think AZ is waiting for enough 777-200ER's to enter the inventory so they can revive MXP-SFO, which should be a popular route almost year-round.  Smile


User currently offlineUA777lover From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2959 times:
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I'm an AVID plane spotter at SFO and I'd LOVE to see Emerites fly in here. I was at Boeing Field in March and at the end of the tour I was able to see an Emerites 777-300 coming in for a landing. It was a beautiful thing to see. As for them flying the 773 into SFO, there may be a small problem for taxiing. That plane is too long to hold short of 28-R without the tail blocking 28-Left. Since September 11th, Alitalia has stopped flying into SFO, and I'll like to see the return of that airline soon

User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

I hate to bring up the standard "there are a lot of (insert nationality) in (insert city)" statement to justify service, BUT, there are a lot of Irish in San Francisco and the Bay Area. Also, the only Irish Consulate west of Chicago is in San Francisco, so there are definately ties to SF.

Does anybody have any official info on Emirates serving SFO? or is it just speculation?


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Aeri218:

While there is a sizeable Irish community in the Bay Area (SF Richmond District, etc). I think the preimenent reason for Aer Lingus' expansion of service to SFO and other cities in the US is the tourist dollar. With the tech industry gone south, the Irish economy is slipping, and the country is relying more heavily on tourist traffic to bring in money. This si why the Irish Govt. and Aer Lingus are keen on developing open skies with the USA.


User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 791 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Any idea of to where EI is considering expanding? I hadn't heard that they were trying to expand this much to the US but that's great. I love their big green A333's.

I'm a fan of my hometown airport, DFW, but I can't see EI starting service here because it would be almost 100% connections to Mexico, South America, etc. I wish they would, though.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33190 posts, RR: 71
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Any idea of to where EI is considering expanding? I hadn't heard that they were trying to expand this much to the US but that's great. I love their big green A333's.

From the rumour mill, they want San Francisco and Miami, but they are being offered San Jose and Orlando.



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