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American Eagle's ATRs  
User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

Hey all, The last time I was down in MIA was in 02, anyways, when I was there obviously I saw a lot of American Eagle ATRs. I was wondering if AE still flys the ATR aircraft? If so, what types? How much longer will they be around? Also, I believe that they are not aculty american eagle aircraft, they are from some other airline (or airlineS) doing business with American, operating under the AE banner... Some INFO is greatly appriciated.

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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

I can speak for the caribbean. American Eagle is operated by Executive Air in this region. They operate both ATR42/72 based in San Juan.

If I am not mistaken Executive Air also does the operations from South Florida to the Bahamas. Someone will have to back me up on that.



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User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

I believe that all AE MIA ATR ops are run by Executive Airlines. They provide service from their hubs in SJU and MIA to destinations in Florida, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.

User currently offlineN951U From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

All of the ATRs (42, 72 in various series) are run by the operating division Executive Airlines. Their hubs are Miami and San Juan. The furthest north they get is Jacksonville, Florida. They will be around with ATRs indefinately.

User currently offlineExpressJet_ERJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 833 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Is there a website for Executive Air?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Can't seem to find it anywhere.





-Greg



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User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Great Info so far folks... Keep it commin! thanks!

User currently offlineDsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 892 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

I know that pre 9-11 AE operated a frequency to SAV on a weekend, then daily basis. Does this route still operate from MIA?


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User currently offlineN951U From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1742 times:

Executive Airlines is owned by AMR. It was a spin-off from Eagle, but was Executive before merging into Eagle. They tried to sell it but nobody bought.

What other info are you expecting? I think all of your questions as posed have been answered.


User currently offlineN951U From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

I know that pre 9-11 AE operated a frequency to SAV on a weekend, then daily basis. Does this route still operate from MIA?

No, SAV is no longer a station. DFW-SAV has ended as well.


User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1876 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

Well Im interested to know if there is any info from AMR about the retirement of these aircraft. Also, How many are ATR 42s, and how many are 72s?

User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

In 1999, JFK-DCA was ATR 42s.

User currently offlineEALSYS1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 229 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

I've inquired about when AE would bring in RJ's and it seems the ATR's are here indefinitely. Their cargo hold is much bigger than the RJ's. I'd love to see them add some RJ routes in MIA because anyone that has flown in Florida in the Summer dodging those massive thunderstorms will tell you that that is NOT fun!!

User currently offlineN951U From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Well Im interested to know if there is any info from AMR about the retirement of these aircraft. Also, How many are ATR 42s, and how many are 72s?

There is no information on the retirement of these aircraft. There isn't really a good replacement available at this time.

There are 17 ATR-42 aircraft, 30 ATR-72 (with 64 seats), 12 ATR-72-212A (68 seats and more prop blades) plus four ATR-42 which are parked.


User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Executive Airlines is owned by AMR. It was a spin-off from Eagle, but was Executive before merging into Eagle. They tried to sell it but nobody bought.

Actually, they sold it to a Puerto Rican businessman to make sure they could keep a contract with thier pilots. That was back in 11/02.

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2002/11/1036609247.html


User currently offlineN951U From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Tekelberry,
If you read the article, it doesn't say it was sold. It says:
The company has not said how much it will realize from the sale which is expected to go through next year.

It didn't happen.


User currently onlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7539 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

When the scope clause was relaxed, the sale of Executive did not go through. It is still a part of AMR. The whole purpose for the intended sale of Executive was to reverse codeshare to avoid having the ASM's fall under Eagle's capped limit.

ATR's used to dominate the ORD hub before it when all RJ back in 99
The -72's were recently used in DFW until the CRJ's came online.

No RJ's in SJU for the forseeable future.
RJ's in MIA will be used for Northern feed, like PIT, IND, etc. The ATR's will be used on the shorter Florida, and Bahamas routes.


User currently offlineViflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Also a majority of the 42's are being phased out and sold to FEDEX (along with COEX's) for freighter conversion. But the 72's are here to stay for alteast the for see able future.


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User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1514 times:

Also...

The ATR's make more sense operationally in MIA and SJU than do RJs. I shudder to think of an ERJ attempting MHH or ELH on a hot day... Or any day for that matter. Many of the airports visited by the AE ATRs out of SJU are similar to the small Bahamian fields and would not support RJ operations.


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7993 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1490 times:

Given the fact the ATR-72 can operate out of relatively short runways, they will continue to be a staple of operations out of MIA and SJU to various smaller islands in the Caribbean. A lot of the smaller Caribbean islands have runways that are just a bit too short to support an ERJ145 or CRJ200.

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