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WN To Get 42 New A/C Next YEAR.  
User currently offlineLGBGUY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

WN will now take on 42 new LUVjets insted of just 25..rumore has it that 6 new A/c will come online in FEB 04..can you say NEW CITY..today is a GOODDAY!!!LgBgUy???

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User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

LUVjets?! Quite what's so romantic about the Boeing 737 I fail to see. The Airbus range however, now that's a whole different story  Big grin

A vs. B - which is the more 'luvving' aircraft?

Edit: Please don't actually discuss this question...

GoAround

[Edited 2003-07-21 16:58:54]


GoAround
User currently offlineIHadAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Yes WN growth is a good thing, more markets = more competition and hopefuly lower prices for all, not to mention a few more jobs here and there...

"A vs. B - which is the more 'luvving' aircraft?" .....
..... Why the one with the biggest engine the most thrust and the best use of their thrust reversers.

Yours,
IHadAPheo

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

The LUV comes from WN's listing on the Stock Exchange. Anyway, it could be a new city, but I still think that their first priority is to connect the dots. For example, I could see with a good number of these new planes doing transcons, especially out of MHT, BDL, BWI, RDU, and MCO. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of these planes replace some 737-200s on an aircraft-for-an-aircraft basis.

Also, these will be delivered with winglets, right?

Jeff


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

With Song starting to fly LAS-MCO, LAX-MCO soon, I see Southwest jumping in on that city pair.

User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1881 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

I really hope to see WN expand in the north west U.S. as well. They fly this little market up here between PDX/BOI/GEG/SEA and I really hope they add EUG into that!

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

>>>Also, these will be delivered with winglets, right?

It was mentioned in the previous winglet announcement that new aircraft delivered from Boeing would be winglet-equipped starting in the fall of 2004. Based on that, I'd have to guess that roughly 25-30 of those 42 aircraft coming in 2004 will -NOT- be winglet-equipped and get modified later.

Just guesstimate numbers...


User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

Actually, 6 new aircraft for delivery in February could have two purposes: (1) to take advantage of seasonal increases in demand from MHT, PVD, BDL, BUF, ALB, ISP, and BWI to Florida (perhaps the long-awaited daily non-stops to FLL and/or PBI from all but the last two, which already have them) and (2) the aforementioned new city.

Southwest did state that several of those deliveries would be used to replace retiring -200's as well, but it's quite clear that Southwest is bullish on recovery prospects in 2004 given that they've exercised all their options for 2004 and accelerated deliveries and options from 2005 to 2004.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

I see these new aircraft as being used to replace older 200 series also connecting the dots in the system before adding new cities.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8044 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

I think WN is preparing for a move into Colorado Springs, CO (COS) by some time in 2004, using the former Western Pacific gates at that airport.

It'll be a natural for WN to fly to COS, given that Colorado Springs is a rapidly-growing area with new industry going in there and the winter ski season.


User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3193 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

I am sure that WN will be looking at picking a few cherries off the STL tree as well. They may fly those 200's until the last day of noise requirements will let them.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

WN is going to launch a new city in 2004, and they are going to take advantage of AA's pull down in St.Louis to expand.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/030721/airlines_southwest_earns_5.html



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User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3193 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

Thanks for the link SST757

User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

http://www.atwonline.com/indexfull.cfm?newsid=3257

Southwest nets $246 million in quarter, adds more aircraft
Dateline: Tuesday July 22, 2003

Based on its second-quarter financial performance, it will take more than a war to slow down Southwest Airlines.

The carrier reported net income of $246 million for the three months ended June 30, more than twice the net income of $102 million in the year-ago period. Excluding special items in both years, second-quarter 2003 net income increased 22.6% to $103 million from $84 million in the 2002 quarter.

Special items in the current period included $271 million pre-tax in security fee rebates that resulted in an extra $41 million in employee profit-sharing at the operating level. Second-quarter 2002 results included $36 million in passenger revenue from a reduction in estimated future refunds and exchanges in air traffic liability.

"Although bookings softened early in the quarter as a result of the war in Iraq, traffic and revenues finally began to improve in mid-June," Vice Chairman and CEO James Parker said. Based on the current revenue and cost outlook, he expects third-quarter earnings to exceed third-quarter 2002 earnings of $75 million, which included $48 million pre-tax in government funds.

And while most US Majors scaled back capacity in light of the Iraq war and the SARS outbreak, Southwest continued to grow. RPMs for the quarter increased 4.6% to 12.55 billion and ASMs climbed 4.2% to 17.89 billion compared to the prior-year period.

The carrier is not stopping there. Executive VP-Finance and CFO Gary Kelly said Southwest will take eight more 737-700s than intended in 2004. It had planned to take 17 and will now add 25 by bringing forward deliveries of two firm and six option aircraft originally set for 2005.

Total operating revenues rose 2.9% to $1.52 billion in the second quarter while operating expenses climbed 7.1% to $1.38 billion. As a result, operating income dropped 25.9% to $140 million from $189 million in the year-ago period. Excluding special items in both years, however, operating income increased 13.8% to $181 million from $159 million in the 2002 period, the company said.

Yield per RPM decreased 1.8% to 11.67 cents. Operating RASM fell 1.3% to 8.47 cents while CASM rose 2.7% to 7.68 cents owing to higher profit-sharing expense on the government grant. Parker said unit revenues thus far in the third quarter are exceeding year-ago levels. The company expects third-quarter 2003 unit costs excluding fuel to exceed last year's figure of 6.23 cents as well.

For the six months ended June 30, net income more than doubled to $270 million compared to net income of $123 million in the previous year. Operating revenues rose 5% to $2.87 billion and operating expenses jumped 7.5% to $2.68 billion, producing an operating income of $186 million, a 21.8% drop compared to operating income of $238 million in the year-ago period.--Loren Farrar



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

MSY to MDW/MCI/PVD/SEA and increased nonstop service to BWI,LAX,LAS,MCO,FLL....these would not constitute the 40 additional flights per day they are planning on adding here eventually, but it's a start.

Lots of room for WN growth down here, only a matter of time.

I'd expect STL to see a good chunk of new flights to some abandoned AA routes as well as expanded service to some major business and leisure cities.

As for new cities....your guess is as good as mine. Truth is no one really knows except for WN management.


Steve in N.O



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