Mike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2339 times:
I flew ATA for the first time earlier this month. I didn't really like them - seemed like a really cheap operation. However, I am still very excited to see them expanding so much! In this economy, I am happy when any airlines grow and expand! And with those fares, no doubt they will kick Continental's a**!!
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
This is going to be interesting, and I wonder if CO is going to match the low ATA fares on the EWR-SFO route.......CO enjoys it dominant position at EWR and would very much prefer to keep a low-cost carrier like ATA out of EWR, EWR-Midway with onward connections is one thing, but a key transcon route such as EWR-SFO is another. JetBlue also competes on trascon flights out of the New York area via JFK airport, but its flights operate into Long Beach, Oakland and Ontario (is JetBlue still operating into Ontario?) which distinguishes their services a bit from the traditional airlines.
Is ATA setting up a mini-hub or focus city at SFO? I am trying to understand why ATA selected a route such as EWR-SFO as most of their operations are cetnered around Midway and Indianapolis.
Rumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2210 times:
CO and UA will match those fares dollar for dollar. They have no choice. Glad to see them expanding. Hopefully the will get better utilization out of those airplanes, crew members, gates, etc. and bring the casm down some more.
The business traveler loves multiple flights. The more the better.
WNfan From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
CO and UA will match the TZ fares, unfortunately. Their pattern has been to rip-off customers until a discounter comes in to keep them honest. Look for their fares to drop the very day that TZ begins EWR-SFO service.
In the CHI-PIT market, UA matched FL fares until AirTran dropped that service, then UA raised them, and then lowered them again when TZ began MDW-PIT service earlier this year. The same thing happened with FL and their MDW-ICT service; as soon as they pulled out, UA jacked up the rates on their ORD-ICT runs.
Today's news is great for folks in the New York and San Francisco metropolitan areas. Well done ATA and keep up the growth.
ATA767 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2065 times:
Using Orbitz I did a price comparison from 11/26/03 from ERW to SFO returning on 11/30/03. The prices are as follows: ATA $302, UAL $1019 and CO $1019. A difference of $700.00 will fill those seats for sure. that is during the busy Thanksgiving holiday too!!