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Qantas Nonstop To Europe?  
User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

have heared that QF plans nonstop-flights from syd/mel to european destinations.
anybody can confirm or knows more about it?

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User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4047 times:
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Will this be possible with B744s for such a long trip without using Singapore as hub ? I can't imagine that but it's interesting to hear about it ...

User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

No, the 744 is not able to handle it - but i think they are talking about buying the 380 and that should work.
sin-hub had been difficult this months cause of sars, ek is flying nonstop from dxb to syd eff 10/2003.
so if they would have done it earlier, that would have been a good solution for lots of aussie-tourists.


User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3949 times:
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True ...

Do you know whether QF is planning to buy A380s? Latest news I heard QF said they won't get it ...


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3946 times:

Am sure they will buy it.
Warum auch nicht?  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3932 times:
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Na gut ... we'll see what they are going to do ...  Smile

by the way ... what's your favourite airport for spotting?


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

Frankfurt 18 West.
I usually don't spott. But when i have been in Brisbane i visited an australian friend who fell in love with planes. So we went to Bne airport.
When he was in Frankfurt 2 years ago he got wet eyes when he saw all the 747, 340, md 11 and short-haul european airlines. Then he saw a parking 747-400 from QF .
You know another good airport for spotting in germany?


User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Do you know whether QF is planning to buy A380s? Latest news I heard QF said they won't get it ...

Hmmmmmmmm... they ordered 6x A380s abt 1 year ago together with their A330s.



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User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Qantas was one of the first airline to order the A380. You didn't know?


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User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3901 times:
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No, sorry. I prefer spotting at Frankfurt. I know many airports around the world but the best variety of planes you see at Frankfurt and Heathrow. A great airport for spotting is Singapore.

User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

I have heared about it, Manni. But lots of things change. So maybe they cancelled options.
SQ also had options for the concorde years ago and didnt order them then.
But plane is made for QF, good desission to buy that plane.


User currently offlineMegatop From Denmark, joined May 1999, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Nonstop from Australia to Europe.

Not even the A340-500 will be able og flying nonstop from Australia to Europe with a full payload.

So I guess they still have to use BKK and SIN as a 1 stop hub.


Megatop


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

Megatop, we're talking about the 380, not the 340.
EK will fly from DXB to SYD - nonstop. So no need to use BKK, SIN, KUL, HKG o.e. for hub. Hub can be closer to europe and one day, there will be no more hub i guess.
Is SAS interrested in 380, Megatop, you have heared something?


User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3856 times:
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Friends in SIN told me that airport officials fear Changi will be no longer be used as hub by QF and probably further airlines in the future. Does anybody has detailed information ?

User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

No, but i can't believe that, Chris. QF changed its timetable to have one big hub in south-east-asia: sin.
very friendly staff there, great airport, fully a/c.
some toilets are horrable cause asian-style (hole in bottom).
but airport is very nice.
And i think it's a good time to go out of plane, walking around, instead sitting in the plane for 20+ hours.


User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3827 times:
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I totally agree with you about Changi. It's a great airport with an excellent service by its employees. And SIN is a great place for a stopover on the way to Australia or New Zealand.

Hopefully QF won't change the plans about their SIN hub !


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

You been to australia before, Chris?
Know the place where the spotters are in SYD??


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Qantas has A380 aircraft on firm order, not 6 as mentioned above.

The A340-500 and B777-200LR shoud be capable of Heathrow - Perth.

Jeremiah



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User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3792 times:
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Yes, i have been to Australia in September 2001. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to spend some time at Kingsford-Smith.
I had an domestic flight with a QF 763 from Cairns to Sydney and I can tell you that the security check was 1000 % ! I was having this flight just 2 weeks after September 11 and staff at the airport was quite nervous so they checked REALLY everything. Due this many goos spotting places where closed for public.


User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3776 times:

Australia is cool, mate.  Wink/being sarcastic
And you're right: much more interresting places to visit than airports.


User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Geof Dixon visited SIN in May during the height of SARS where he was given red carpet treatment by the Singapore Ministry of Transport officials and they were busy licking each other boots.

Basically Dixon reaffirmed his commitment to Singapore and blah blah blah. The Changi people must have given him a good deal!

think QF will remain in Singapore for the near future, with BA routing its AUS flights through SIN too.

Yes EK is doing DXB-SYD fr Oct but remember they are starting DXB-SIN-BNE and DXB-SIN-somewhere-AKL too.


User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3726 times:
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Did you visit Australian airports Stefan ?

User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

No, i went to BNE from FRA (stop in SIN for 2 hours each), went to my friends at sunshine coast, visited marochydore airport at sunshine coast. I love those little airports: 2 x a day a 737 or 717, 5 to 6 x a day a shorts 360. Then i visited BNE airport twice.
What airline you flew with, Chris?
Know that gulf air will fly to australia ?
seems as if we get cheap tickets cause lots of airlines are flying to australia again  Wink/being sarcastic)


User currently offlineMegatop From Denmark, joined May 1999, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

To Stefandotde !

DXB is not in Europe. And the A340-500 has a much longer range than the A380. So if the A340-500 not is able to fly, lets say FRA - SYD, the A380 is very far from.

regarding SAS getting the A380, I don't think so. Looking back to the 70's, you will see that SAS has gone from the B747 and DC10 to first the B767, and now recently to the A340-300 and A330-300. So the A380 will be much to large for the Scandinavia marked.

BUT the A380 in SAS colors would be some.


Megatop


User currently offlineChris7217 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2002, 169 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3675 times:
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Yes, I wouldn't mind if the prices will get cheaper ...  Big grin by the way I love Gulf Air's new color sheme ... it's looks great at their A340s ...

I flew with SIA. I had a great flight and a superb connecting flight from Singapore to Sydney (perfect weather). I would chose SIA anytime again !

In 2000 I visited New Zealand and I flew with ANZ from Frankfurt to Auckland via LAX and Nadi. 27 hours real flight time and 2 2 hours stops at LAX and Nadi. It was an exhausting flight but the airline is amazing. A few days ago I notived that ANZ is longer serving Frankfurt. I guess the only airport in Europe is Heathrow. That's sad ...



25 Stefandotde : I flew with QF in sep 2002, was great cause nowhere i had that cool flight-attendents. Australian-style. Yeah, the Gulf-Color-Sheme is nice, almost as
26 Post contains images Chris7217 : Too bad, the QF F/As I had on my domestic flight were not that cool ... mostly elder women ...
27 Post contains images Stefandotde : Chris, you needn't marry them! lol But i think that's not the theme of the chatroom. We should go into single-chat and i could give you some tips abou
28 Post contains images Chris7217 : LOL ... Good idea ... you can drop me a line at junker_c@web.de ... But now I have to leave here ... a client is waiting for me ...
29 Stefandotde : my mail is stefan-ist-ein@kaffeeschluerfer.com take care, bye.
30 MEA : I think the A340 has enough range to fly from Perth to places such as Athens, Malta & Cyprus, basically the Mediterranean region. However, I wouldn't
31 Stefandotde : Hi, MEA-Fan. Just would be fine if QF is flying nonstop SYD-FRA. But of course their prefered destination is LON.
32 GoAround : God knows what the future holds in airplane technology, but if they want to fly LON-Australia nonstop, they'd better develop a pretty quick aircraft.
33 Stefandotde : You're totally right, 2 hours stopping in SIN for just walking around etc is nice. And what timetable will we have then? 23.55 dep FRA, 01.20 SYD am?
34 Heisan67 : SAS will never get the A380 in their fleet. SAS have more than enoughf filling their A340..not to mention all their other planes. SAS just announced t
35 Dutchjet : Nonstop LHR-SYD with an A380 will not be possible; the A380s will operate the Kangaroo route LHR-Australia with a stop in Bangkok or Singapore, just a
36 Airmale : Soon London and Frankfurt will be their only European destinations and since they dont fly to anyplace beyond bangkok, why dot QF turn whats left of t
37 ConcordeBoy : QF/BA arent keen on using PER as a gateway. The only aircraft which could reach western Europe from eastern Australia would be a heavily restricted 77
38 Dutchjet : Airmale: There are several reasons why QF flies the Kanagroo route and does not convert its Europe-Australia service to a transpacific operation - fir
39 BBD : If ever Boeing were to revisit its subsonic cruiser, and if it were to produce an economical, long range version, capable of flying LHR-SYD non-stop,
40 QANTASFOREVER : Everything I've been hearing is Sydney-Perth-London when the A380 gets here. QF have already positioned staff in Perth - a sign of things to come? QAN
41 Jupiter2 : I have no reason to doubt you QANTASFOREVER, so don't take this personally, but why the hell would QF operate the 380 via Perth to LHR ?? Perth would
42 QANTASFOREVER : Jupiter2, It's merely speculation at this point. You'd have to ask Qantas for more info.
43 Docpepz : Geoff Dixon said that 20% of QF's revenue passes through SIN everyday. I'm interested to know wha percentage of that actually originates in SIN, or co
44 Marara : QFF The staff based at PER are for WA domestic flights only. I dont beleive there is any advantage to flying PER-LHR nonstop. Apart from Perth residen
45 Osteogenesis : Megatop, And the A340-500 has a much longer range than the A380. This is only true for the first A380. The A380F has different flaps and an additional
46 Stefandotde : Osteogenesis: 16,000 - 17,000 km is not enough for a nonstop flight from central europe to australian east-coast.
47 Cancidas : can the A340-600 make it nonstop from sydney to london?
48 ConcordeBoy : an the A340-600 make it nonstop from sydney to london? not even close
49 Vimanav : If you recall, in 1989 QF did a ferry with VH-OJA their first B744 when the aircraft did a LON-SYD non-stop - a distance of just over 17000kms. It was
50 Marara : They also used a special type of fuel.
51 SailorOrion : It would be possible but not with the current aircraft QF has, but I did some computations, leading to these results: Assumptions: One Y class passeng
52 Miami1 : Marara- Qantas have a long haul cabin crew base at PER. This was open long before the new short haul base. The flying from PER is mostly to SIN (and p
53 Marara : oops, totally forgot.
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