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Longest 744 Route  
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

Someone just posted a question regarding the longest 747-200 and 747-300 routes. Anyone know what the longest non-stop commercial air route in the world is (it has to be a 744)?


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

Which is longer -- NYC-Johannesburg or LAX-SYD?


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

I think the JFK-JNB is longest of the two, though it often tech stops at Cap Verde. Wouldn't ORD-HKG also be up there somewhere?

Previous contenders would be UAL's JFK-HKG flight.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5037 times:

Or, can a long-range 777 travel further than a 744?


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

The 772ER is currently the longest ranged aircraft in commercial service

The longest nonstop 744 segment is ATL-JNB, though the return cannot be flown nonstop


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

"Or, can a long-range 777 travel further than a 744?"

The 777LR will beat anything.

On the 744, I would have said UA JFK-HKG.

[Edited 2003-07-30 22:35:32]


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User currently offlineCapt078 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

the longest scheduled flight in the world is atlanta to johannesburg on a south african airways 747-400 at 8440 miles. in the summer, they can only fly nonstop going east, and have to stop at SID (santa maria) going west

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4946 times:

OK, then: any ideas on what the longest 777LR route is? Could the 777LR fly JNB-ATL?


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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

The 777LR does not fly yet. It is in the production stages. Soon, though. Look for it on routes to match the A345 capabilities.


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4878 times:

OK, thanks -- sorry for looking like an idiot in front of everyone.


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4839 times:

Look for it on routes to match the A345 capabilities.

Perhaps you mean "exceed the A345's capabilities"!  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Ssides - just like DIA pointed out the 772LR is still in productions in Seattle.

When it does come into service it will be the longest range aircraft taking over the A340-500. Right now the longest range aircraft is the 777-200ER than it wil be the A340-500 when that comes out than the 777-200LR.

The 777-200LR for sure can fly ATL-JNB, infact it will be able to fly non-stop from Kuala Lumpur or Singapore to New York non-stop or Mumbai, Delhi Los Angeles non-stop.



User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4701 times:

At the moment, ATL-JNB/CPT stops at Cape Verde both ways. It has not always been this way; in fact in the last year, it has been flown nonstop going east, but right now it isn't. About being able to do that nonstop in the summer, is that the northern hemisphere or southern hemisphere summer considering the flight is almost half and half in each hemisphere?

-Airplanetire


User currently offlineEroica From Israel, joined Dec 2001, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4663 times:

I think it was LAX-TLV by El-Al, which used to be operated by a 744. On the westbound leg the aircraft had to make a refuelling stop, usually in Toronto. The flight time was 14 hours. Today the route is operated by a 777, which stops in Toronto on both legs.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

About being able to do that nonstop in the summer, is that the northern hemisphere or southern hemisphere summer considering the flight is almost half and half in each hemisphere?

I've never heard of both segments being flown nonstop, but if indeed that did happen... then obviously the southern hemisphere's season would be the deciding factor, not the northern  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4624 times:

Actually, I think the longest route time wise is EWR-HKG on the CO 777.

UAL747


User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

Another contender for the 777 is Malaysia Airlines' DXB-EWR service.

User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

The ATL-JNB is the longest, it is stopping in SID right now because the loads are higher out of ATL, and I think there was one other reason that I've forgotten right now. The nonstop will be back this fall.

User currently offlineFreakfor747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

JFK-JNB on 744
JFK-HKG on 777-200ER



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

JFK-HKG on 777-200ER

No 772ER has ever flown JFK-HKG in scheduled service


User currently offlineAnt72LBA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

My first post so apologies if I'm stating the obvious at any point!

Airbus website suggests A340-500 series can fly 15,800 kms non-stop, not sure if any route fully utilizes this yet; Paris-Perth? This seems to beat the 747 or 777 in any ER version.

A search of Google seems to suggest that the United JFK-HKG was longest scheduled service, taking 15 hrs 40 minutes, covering 13,580 kms and using 216,000 litres of fuel. Anyone know when this service stopped as I can't seem (not tried too hard) to find it anymore?


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4385 times:

In terms of flight time, yes LAX-SYD and JFK-HKG are longer than ATL-JNB. But in terms of miles flown, ATL-JNB is the longest. I don't know the exact off hand, but I remember that ATL-CPT was 8134 miles...I know that flight all too well...

User currently offlineGALLO_MEXICO From Mexico, joined Oct 2000, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4342 times:

Was there ever a BA or Qantas LHR-SYD nonstop ???

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

LHR-SYD has been performed nonstop before in a nearly-empty aircraft

Never in scheduled pax service


User currently offlineGALLO_MEXICO From Mexico, joined Oct 2000, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Thanks ConcordeBoy.

How about LHR-BKK ?

Beats ATL-JNB, LAX-SYD, JFK-HKG ?


25 Jayspilot : continental flew a 777-200 from ewr to hkg before sars... and will again soon
26 Post contains images AJ : MEL (37°40'24"S 144°50'36"E) LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) 6883 nm HKG (22°18'32"N 113°54'53"E) EWR (40°41'33"N 74°10'07"W) 7009 nm JNB (26°08
27 The777Man : Longest 744 route flown nonstop in both directions was JFK-HKG by UA. Only lasted at the most 6 months, discontinued 31Aug01. Starting this weekend, U
28 Jetdeltamsy : jnb-atl i think. it's about 8000 miles. south african airways flies it, delta code shares the flight.
29 AJ : The777Man, your statement "Starting this weekend, UA will resume nonstop flights ORD-HKG which will then be the longest nonstop route in both directio
30 Chrisrad : I thought MEL-LAX was longest not requiring a stop in either direction
31 Osteogenesis : Can somebody provide the exact figures? According to the A.Net Database the A340-500 would be the one with the best range. The A340-500 has 15,740km (
32 Metsfan1 : For all the people claiming that Atl-JNB would be the longest 744 route, isn't it JFK-JNB. South African flies this non-stop with a 744 and as far as
33 Post contains images AJ : Not even close Metsfan1, ATL - JNB is 7334 nm JFK - JNB is 6925 nm
34 Capt078 : atl-jnb is the longest route. scheduled at 8440 miles. they do not fly in a straight line everyone, because of prevailing winds (think very complex de
35 The777Man : AJ, My mistake, MEL-LAX is the longest nonstop in both directions with a 744. ORD-HKG is a close second. The777Man
36 Ssides : Any word on what kind of range the A380 will have? Will it fly further than the 777LR, or will its pax load hinder its ultra-long-range abilities?
37 RayChuang : It will be interesting to see if the A380-800 meets the 8,000 nautical mile range goal. If it can, I wouldn't be surprised that QF uses the A388 on th
38 Capt078 : The777Man: Mel-Lax is NOT the longest 747-400 flight. that flight is 7931 miles according to qantas and expedia. The south african (saa) 747-400 nonst
39 SAA-SAL : where do you all get these precise distances from?
40 Capt078 : various published and/or online sources. namely, ATW, Airways Magazine, OAG, airlines' publications, their websites, and if necessary, the travel site
41 Post contains links ConcordeBoy : cathay used to offer a nonstop 747-400 from jfk to hkg, but has stopped that flight due to SARS and the economy Actually, that was United's flight, an
42 The777Man : Capt078: MEL-LAX IS the longest nonstop flight by a 744 in BOTH directions. SA stops in SID on the return from ATL. The777Man
43 Behramjee : The longest route to be flown officially is by CONTINENTAL's B 777-200ER between EWR and HKG which takes 18 hrs nonstop in the winter. The longest rou
44 Gigneil : I think AF still operates to either GIG or GRU nonstop from CDG with their 332. N
45 Capt078 : The777Man: during certain months, the saa 747-400 atl-jnb is nonstop because of prevailing winds and temperature. however, during months this cannot h
46 Vimanav : AC is planning to commence non stops YYZ-DEL which is 11662kms from Winter. Definitely lower than some of the routes like ATL-JNB etc. its comparable
47 Fritzi : Is it only me who thinks this or is this topic discussed every other week?
48 Gigneil : CO's nonstop flight EWR-HKG has resumed... N
49 Jourdan747 : How about Korean Air from ATL non-stop to ICN (Seoul) ATL (33°38'26"N 84°25'37"W) ICN (37°28'09"N 126°27'02"E) 7152 mi
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