Beltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2519 times:
Despite the fact that my law practice includes helping client acquire and sell business jets, I've only had the chance to fly on one. It was a six-seater (crew plus 6). It was actually very informal. Announcements involved the pilot yelling back over his shoulder!
AFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2516 times:
Twice, on a Falcon 900B owned by a company my dad used to work for. Roundtrip from Le Bourget to a military/civilian airport near Cognac, France. It was absolutely amazing, it was my whole family and then a stewardess and the pilots. The interior had large LCDs, VCR/DVD, a communications corner and beautiful leather seats and a couch. The food was really good as well
Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward; for there you long to return
Clrd2go From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2483 times:
The company for which I worked (since merged into 2 other companies)
owned a Westwind II many years ago. It made 3 weekly roundtrips from
BED-COS-DVT (Deer Valley, near Phoenix) ferrying employees. I flew
it a couple of times from COS-BED, and from DVT-COS. It was not luxurious
by any standards..lunch/dinner was sandwiches prepared by the company's
cafeteria vendors, but it was kind of fun flying on it. We had quite a fleet
at BED..a couple twin otters, a King Air and several copters.
Expratt From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2457 times:
I have flown on corporate jets five times: four on a G-IV and once on a Lear 55. All seats on the Gulfstream were great, made of leather, almost like a LaziBoy recliner with seat belts. The sofa is not very comfortable and could not really stretch out. Every time someone would walk back to the lav, had to pick up one's feet to avoid getting stepped on. Airplane was equipped with a map display to show progress of flight, speed, and altitude. The Lear is also comfortable, but doesn't have the walkaround capability that the Gulfstream has or the private restroom. Watch the amount of coffee you drink before boarding the Lear. Very convienent to just walk up to the plane, load up the luggage, and go. Both are far superior ways to travel in comparison to flying commercial.
Wannabe From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 681 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2411 times:
Flew in a Citation from ROC to DFW. About three hours if I remember correctly. We were flying clients to a briefing, down and back in one day. It was fun...to a degree, but pretty crowded. Sort of like flying in a customized van. Little stand up room and everyone had to shift around if someone had to go to the lav. I'd rather fly in a commercial for long haul, but not dealing with the terminals was sweet.
Pilotallen From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 656 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2357 times:
I work for an FBO (or the only FBO) at portland Intl (pwm) in maine. I had the chance to fly in a Citation X.......the crew was doing some recurrent training and my boss asked if we could come along, the pilots were really nice and said it was ok, we flew a big pattern around the airport twice and did 2 landings. i thought it was neat, but no food or anyting standard. my boss also got the chance to fly on a g-v cant imagin what that would be like.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2627 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2330 times:
Some flights I have flown..
Citation CJ ICT-STL-ICT (50 min each way),
Citation Encore ICT-SEA-ICT (3:45),
Citation 3 ICT-SEA-ICT (3:10),
Citation XL ICT-SLC-ICT (1:35), 135 kt tail wind
Citation CJ2 ICT-ELP-ICT (2:00).
Above times are flight times each way (approx)
Another time in a Citation 3 ICT-DEN-ABQ-DFW-ICT, but didn't land at the intermediate cities, just flew over them. We were gone 3 hours.
The flexibility and convenience will spoil you. When you land at the FBO, your rental car is parked near the wingtip, just get in and drive off. No security and flexible schedule. When we get our work done, we phone the pilots and tell them when we will be ready to leave. I have been on trips where we walk from the meeting to the airplane and takeoff within 15 minutes of the meeting finishing up.
Based on the type of aircraft flown and the origin city, you can probably guess who I work for.
My next business jet flight will be on the new Citation Sovereign next month on a Function/Reliability test conducted prior to certification.
Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
Beltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2297 times:
I handle aircraft acquisition transactions. Purchases, leases and associated financing. Typical transactions are business jets and used commercial jets. I've been doing it for about 10 of my 16 years of practice. I don't touch "crash & splash" litigation.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19612 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2281 times:
Doesn't sound particularly exciting, but then that's why I decided not to become a solicitor: I would prefer the court work. I'm currently doing lots of mooting and debating plus plenty of voluntary work for crime-related organisations, such as Victim Support and Witness Support. In addition, I have written for my university newspaper, worked voluntarily in my university's free advice centre and undertaken several other things. Gaining the experience to prove that I am committed to the profession and dedicated to a particular aspect of law (for me it's crime) is an ongoing process.
It sounds as though you enjoy it!
[Edited 2003-07-31 20:35:43]
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Luisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2281 times:
my family got to fly one when my dad was calle to chicago from the cayman islands by the company he worked for
they picked him up and left him in chicago and they let us tag along (although I was only 2 years old) so i dont remember anything
Each trip was awesome. After flying this way you will never again want to fly the airlines even first class. Food is great, FBO service is great, no lines and you feel so safe. It is also so nice to fly into airports that are more convienant. I have been in, but not flown in a Hawker 800 & 1000, Citation X, G-IV, BBJ, and one of Xerox's Challengers.
Greg From United Kingdom, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2230 times:
We belong to FlexJet...so yeah...all on Lear/Bombardiers.
But its rare..maybe a dozen times in the last four years (?). And oddly, all on very short hops (Houston to Austin, the Valley, Dallas, etc...).
All things considered, I'll take a Challenger anytime....
The bad part was that if there were 8 seats on the plane..you can bet all 8 were filled. So it did seems a bit cramped--particularly on the Lear.
Interesting note that some of the atty's actually have it stipulated in employment agreements that they do NOT have to travel by private plane (we are all prevented from travelling on business in single engine planes for insurance reasons...)
Atpcliff From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2176 times:
I just flew today in a Falcon 20 from LRD-BRO-MCI-YIP. In the past 12 months I've flown over 350 trips.
The seats are fairly comfortable, but they don't look like much. They're very old, maybe even original equipment (the plane was about 35 years old). The food was pretty good-I bought it myself at a grocery store in LRD. There is A LOT of room to walk around in in the back (it was COMPLETELY empty on most legs today), but there is only about 5 feet of legroom, so I have to bend over. There is no lav.
The view out of the windows is fabulous! The crew is ususally great, although occasionaly I fly with a grumpy captain.
I really like it a lot!
PS-If you haven't already guessed, I'm a pilot. I'm an FO in a cargo DA-20.
In my AF days I flew in a number of Sabreliners and King Airs. My dad used to fly in a Jetstar, a Falcon 20, and a Gulfstream I. He liked the Gulfstream and the Falcon 20. He said the Jetstar was a DOG!-very slow.
TRY. It's all you have control over, and it's what God wants.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3424 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2167 times:
I was in a Learjet 35 once... i dont remember much of it, but we accually got offered a ride by 2 pilots going somewhere for to pick up some parts and bring em back, and they were getting the parts from our destination, and they wer to fix the 737 we were supposed to be on, and we happened to know the guys, so we jetted off jsut 2 pilots up front and us 2 in the back
All i really remember was big seats and the announcements were the captain leaning over and yelling things like "want some snacks there should be some peanuts up here in the bar area..." "yo were gunna be landed soon so get them belts on aight.."
JayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2106 times:
I have never flown on a BizJet, but my friend works for Richardson Aviation at FTW. This company is owned by the billionaire Bass brothers of FTW. They have about 6 Falcons and one Astra I believe. The Astra is for one of the former wives of one of the brothers. I went over to see my friend one time at the facility and asked him if I could get on board one of them, just to look around. He said I had to put slippers over my shoes !! When I got on board, the plane just reeked of leather and walnut......talk about nice !! Man oh Man, it was plush. I can't imagine that lifestyle.
I asked my friend where the flight attendant sat and he pointed to the first officer's seat, so obviously, these planes do not employ a flight attendant.
My goal is to fly on a DC-3 (done that), the Concorde (no longer possible) and a BizJet (still a possibility) !!
I know I still could fly on the Concorde as it hasn't quit flying just yet, I just could afford it. My good friend Ben Want recently flew on it and he has a great trip report on it, if you want to read it.
Pmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2087 times:
I've flown on private planes quite often.
I'll try to give you all of them and who owned them.
Pilatus PC-12 Owned by PlaneSense
Pilatus PC-12 company owned.
King Air 200 company owned
King Air 350 Company owned
Lear 23 Chartered (hated it)
Cessna Citation V Bravo Net Jets
Cessna Excel Citation Shares
Cessna Citation X NetJets
Falcon 50 Flight Options
Hawker 800XP Company Owned
Gulfstream 200 Company owned
Falcon 900 Chartered
Challenger 601 Flight options
Challenger 604 Chartered
Boeing 727 Executive Chartered
Now On the flights we had attendants on they were all young, cheerful women who were extremely helpful.
As far as catering it all depends, most of the time it was excellent, we ordered what we wanted and it showed up. I usually had stuff from Panera Bread. I usually was working on the flights so I didn't have time to kick back, but most of them have entertainment systems, the 727 had a full state room as did the Falcon 900. The most uncomfortable planes are the Lear, and the Hawker.
The hawker has a fixed inner armrest (and almost all hawkers do) and it's uncomfortable.
The level of convenience is amazing, you show up and the pilots ask if you are ready to leave, not them telling you it's time to go. Depending on the FBO you can drive your car onto the tarmac and they will valet it back to the parking area. Your rental car is right inside, and all you do is sign and drive.
If you have work to do it's the best and only way to travel. You arrive fresh, crisp and ready to work, and can be productive in the sky. All the planes I traveld on had full telephones too. Having a full lav is nice but on short hops it's better to use the FBO's. As far as announcements on the fractional and charter flights the co pilot does a safety briefing, on the company planes it basically comes down to. The pilot yelling back "And they're off" as we begin our take off roll. My only complaint is the Cessna's have this seat belt chime which is so loud it doesn't sound like a chime at first, it sounds like a loud alarm buzzer. It's an odd sound but all you cessna flyers will know what I mean. But if you can afford $1000-5000 an hour it's the best way to fly. If you have to work and you absolutely postively have be there now it's the only way. Any questions please ask.