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LA Area To New York: Suggestions?  
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Ok....I don't have a way out of this. This is a mandatory trip for me. I will need to go to New York (again) during middle October.

In the past, I have flown Continental (loved them) and National (loved them) from LAX-EWR.

But all of that was pre-9/11. And of course, N7 went down the drain.

So...since I am no longer "seasoned" or "up to date" on the airlines vís-a-vís service, who do you recommend.

Here is my criteria:

Because of where I'm staying, EWR is the ideal choice. JFK would be second choice. Even PHL would be ok. I can rent a car and drive up.

LGB is the closest airport to me.

SNA and LAX are both roughly the same distance.

But a drop off/pickup ride may require using ONT.

I am willing to spend up to $500 R/T.

I would prefer a nonstop flight

I want a meal. 5 hours on a plane, with nothing to do is a long time. Plus, it's a 'special' part of the flight experience, quality notwithstanding.

I don't care about IFE because 1) I will bring a portable CD player and 2) something to read and 3) I LOVE gazing out the window at the passing landscape below as well as the awesome cloudscapes.


And lastly, ANYONE BUT UNITED

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User currently offlineGoldenTale737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

Sounds like an SNA-EWR on CO roundtrip might suit your needs the best right now.

You definitely get a meal.

If you have to use LGB, then I guess your only choice would be Jet Blue or American to JFK. On AA, you would get a 757, instead of the A320 but I think they took out the MRTC in the AA 757's.....

Of course I am biased, but I would go with Continental hands down.


User currently offlineScott4AA From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

If you want to make the trip to LAX, and JFK. You could have an AA 777, probably the best coast to coast.


American Airlines - We Know Why You Fly
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

Hmmm...SNA would be cool. Never flown out of there.

What equipment do they [CO] use? Is it a 757? It would feel wierd flying on a 737 coast to coast.


User currently offlineAndersjt From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

A friend of mine chose LGB over LAX to JFK on AA and loved it. It was on an S-80 with MRTC. In fact, I think he only paid $700 RT for First Class. I don't know if that is still available.

AA is competing with Jet Blue on fares, and from what I have been told, the waiting area and gates for Jet Blue at LGB and JFK are a mess with too many people.



[Edited 2003-07-31 17:26:02]


Oh how I long for the day when the skies were truly Friendly!
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

He wants a meal! jetBlue won't do that.
I can look up AA first class fares in October from LGB.
Hold on.
-UN



What now?
User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3665 times:

I believe CO uses 737NGs on the SNA-EWR flight. I would take that one.


Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3615 times:

How about an AA 763 from LAX-EWR with MRTC + meals? That's what I'd do........

User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3613 times:

If you fly into SNA, you can experience the cool take-offs because of the noise restrictions. If you fly into LAX, fly CO, I flew EWR-LAX last week and it was great.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3610 times:

What is MRTC?

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3597 times:

Also, while back there, I was toying with the idea of sampling an AirTran 717 and/or a CRJ/ERJ from either Cont Ex or USAir Express.

Any one day affordable excursions you can recommend?

Can I take an AirTran 717 from LGA-ATL in the morning and return on the next flight-and not get gouged for it?


User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3596 times:

More Room Throughout Coach...extra legroom on AA.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3596 times:

Thanks for the clarification.


I thought I read somewhere that AA did away with MRTC and stuffed the planes back up in an effort to become profitable.


User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3588 times:

They are going to do away with it in a few years.

User currently offlineCapt078 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3544 times:

no question if you ask me. jetblue is what you want. it's nonstop, you get to fly out of your preferred airport (lgb), and have to go only to jfk. you get your own personal tv with the best flight attendants. so you don't get a meal. airplane food stinks anyway. why not just pick something up in the long beach airport.
it would be nice to fly aa's 777, but that flight out of lax probably costs a fortune.


User currently offlineThunder9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3529 times:

Matt D --

AA is putting two rows back into the 757 fleet, adding twelve seats (A300's are getting seats put back, too). 757 capacity will be F-22 Y-168. The reconfigured cabins will be entering service this fall, and the fleet will be reconfigured by spring '04. Apparently, these a/c will be placed on routed where there is less business travel/higher yield fares. If these planes are to be used on the leisure routes, they might as well make the F cabin smaller to have more "cheap seats" to fill.  Confused



"Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below and smite thee." - William Kershner
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Well it sounds to me like it's either going to be Cont out of SNA or B6 out of LGB.

However, I'm not all that interested in PTV's (gasp!) that B6 has. I already told you what my form of IFE is.

But LGB has pretty slim pickin's in terms of available food. Even if I grab something before going to the airport, you're looking at another 2 or 3 hours (drive time, plus wait time), plus the actual flight. That's 8 hours between meals! Do they serve ANYTHING?

Yikes.



User currently offlineMech24 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Delta has 3 LAX-JFK flights:

Flight 202:757, movie and breakfast
Flight 1991:767-300ER, movie and lunch
Flight 322:757, movie and dinner


User currently offlineWNfan From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

I'm itching to fly jetBlue, and the idea of having live TV on a new all-leather A320 is exciting to me. Plus they are the fare leader in the market. I wish I were in your shoes so I could try jetBlue.

Good luck and enjoy your trip.


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Fly VS on LAX-LHR-EWR.  Big grin

$500 limit? Too bad, that might have to be stretched a bit. At least you get everything else you asked for: food, service, things to look at outside the window (Greenland). And, shock, horror, you'd actually have to leave the continental United Kingdom of America....  Big grin

Besides, I bet you never saw rain in summer, living in LA, so it would actually further your horizons of experience! Big grin


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

Im flying EWR-LAX, SAN-EWR in August with my girlfriend on CO.

I have from EWR to LAX, SFO, SEA on CO a few times and the service is always excellent.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3348 times:

I am an AAdvantage member with a gazillion miles, have flown DL, CO, UA and most other airlines, but I will always choose JetBlue if possible. I flew them for the first time earlier this month (JFK-LAS) and absolutely fell in love with their product! They have the friendliest staff & cleanest planes. And I know you said that the DirecTV is unimportant to you, but that for me was the biggest selling point. I watched that TV for 5 straight hours. The F/A's made the trip a lot of fun and were attentive from take-off to landing. These are some of the quietest, most comfortable planes. I live much closer to SFO, but now deal with the drive to OAK just to fly JetBlue. They don't serve a meal, but the plentiful snacks and drinks were enough to keep me happy (eventhough I did inhale 4 Krispy Kremes while at JFK!).

If you just MUST have a meal, I would go with AA or CO. I have been especially pleased with CO service lately.


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Matt, I'd take Midwest Airlines from LAX if I was you, I'm sure theyll be under $500 to EWR (through MKE). You'll probably be able to fly on a 717 on the MKE-EWR-MKE leg (MD-88 to MKE), the seats are 2-2 instead of 3-2, leather, very comfortable (especially on the 717), and even with Midwest's service cuts they are hands and feet above the other US majors (I flew them DFW-MKE-LGA/EWR-MKE-DFW in Mar.). The food will be great, better than anything else anyone will offer....


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

I flew LAX-EWR on CO, and they use a 737-800. It is absolutely the worst flight I have ever had. There is very little seat room (my hips were very squished, and I'm not an overly large person) The seat recline is great, except that the seats are sooooo close together that you get hit in the nose if you don't recline before the person in front of you. As for the meal, when we flew out to EWR, we got a "meatloaf" sandwich (tasted like a bad burger to me) and on the way back we got a "cheeseburger" (same thing as going to EWR, only with cheese)!!! The F/A told me that this was par for CO's operations. If you have a choice, don't use the 737NG! BTW My flight dates were 7/8-7/23.

I flew AA's MD-80 LAX-EWR via ORD and DFW, and it was very pleasant, but the meal was skimpy!

Brian



Long live Aer Lingus, the Flying Shamrock!
User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

I don't think the 737NG is a bad choice, contrary to the previous poster. It all depends on how much space the air carrier allocates to Y passengers. The below mentioned flights will have 33.75" pitch compared to 30" or so in the coach (aka "steerage") compartment on the erstwhile major carriers.

That being the case, here's my suggestion. You didn't put down the exact dates...I plugged in leave on 16 Oct and return on 21 Oct, I imagine you could get the same fare on other dates.

Depart Oct 16 Thu 1 LAX-ISP WN2575 Depart Los Angeles (LAX) at 12:00 PM
Arrive in Islip (ISP) at 9:30 PM
Return Oct 21 Tue 1 ISP-LAX WN85 Depart Islip (ISP) at 4:00 PM
Arrive in Los Angeles (LAX) at 8:25 PM

Price: $217.50 includes all taxes and fees.

Take the $282.50 you said you could spend (you said 500 bucks) and buy some GOOD food to take on the plane.

With what's left over go shopping in NYC.

My wife flies from ELP to ISP 3 or 4 times a year to do Broadway etc etc, and swears by Islip. The train ride into the city is frequent, convenient, and not outrageously expensive.

Those are both one stops with no change of plane, so you get 4 takeoffs and landings for the price of two.


25 Post contains images A330Fan1 : Sleep on jetBlue rednight flight...I think it leaves Long Beach or Ontario at midnight or so, and arrives at NY in the morning - so you will be fresh
26 Matt D : Hmmm....decisions decisions.... Thanks for all the input so far. hmmm...ISP? That's an awfully long drive from where I'm going to be (Staten Island).
27 STT757 : "That's an awfully long drive from where I'm going to be (Staten Island)." Speaking as someone born on Staten Island EWR is your "only" choice, that's
28 Post contains images STT757 :
29 Matt D : Yeah, I know the proximity of the airports to Staten Island. I've stayed there several times before. I'm going because one of my closest friends is go
30 STT757 : "thank God for FASTRACK though" Is that California's version of Ez pass? When did they introduce that, the Port Authority introduced Ez pass to the St
31 Rolo987 : I have not flown on CO 737NGs, but I did fly on 2 CO 757s last week. The meals were great, 2 movies plus short programming. I was very impressed with
32 STT757 : You can always fly to EWR through IAH on CO, and get on one of their 767-200s, 767-400s or 777s.
33 Matt D : I'm guessing it is. You sign up with the service and link it to a credit card or your bank account. You then get a small plastic transponder (about 3"
34 STT757 : Yeah that's EZ-pass, they have them now at JFK and LGA (coming soon to EWR) to pay for parking. There's also a Mcdonalds at a rest stop on the Garden
35 Tekelberry : Do you have any specific dates? It will be easier to track down the lowest fare for you that way.
36 Matt D : I was thinking of the following dates: LA-NYC: either Oct 11 or 13 return Oct 27
37 Matt D : I found CO for $287 R/T. Can anyone beat that? I've also been browsing around, I'm thinking I'll also take two one-day turnaround trips. First, on Air
38 WMUPilot : Tried ATA though MDW or IND from LAX?
39 Matt D : ATA is, in my opinion, a fleabag. I won't even consider them.
40 Mike77 : Yeah, ATA is a bunch 'o junk. I flew them from SFO - MIA earlier this summer and it was the eqivalent of shopping at a flea market. I avoid them from
41 Fly_ATA : ATA is hardly fleabag...brand new aircraft...all leather seating... adjustable headrests...inlfight entertainment....and less expensive. What the hell
42 Capt078 : nonstop flights are always preferable. you have to consider security wait times, flight times, arrival airports... for the original poster: you should
43 GoldenTale737 : Matt the 73G's are not too bad for the cross-country flight. You will not notice a severe difference between that and the 757-200. The time and hassle
44 Post contains images Spirit MD-80 : With jetBlue super fare you can fly from LGB-ONT-SNA-OAK to JFK for $210.00 RT, get your self a big meal with the money you will safe flying jetblue,
45 Jjbiv : ATA: "fleabag" and "bunch 'o junk"? While I agree ATA may not be the optimum airline for this particular trip, please tell me not everyone thinks so l
46 Matt D : After carefully thinking things through, and reading your input, along with my needs and past experiences, I have decided to go with: (drum roll pleas
47 Teahan : Matt D, I fully understand your criteria but I simply cannot understand why you refuse to consider JetBlue? You last flying experience was pre-911 so
48 Post contains images Teahan : And I didn't read your last message before posting. Jeremiah
49 Matt D : It's not that I didn't consider the Jet Blue. They were one of my final choices. What made the difference was the time of the flight, the destination
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