This is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. I am not racist at all and I have great respect for black people and Mayor Jackson.
The people pushing this forget that William Hartsfield is who set up the airport. It was he that made it a huge success. He was mayor for 20 years! What does Mayor Jackson have to do with the airport and why should it be renamed after him just because he's black? The airport has been known as "Hartsfield" for over 40 years, why would they just change it? Is there anything that the public can do to stop this?
Adam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4119 times:
Well...just from reading that article from the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I can say that they should keep Hartsfield the same. It sounds like this Hartsfield guy basically help put ATL on the map, is that right?
Anyway, as Luv2Fly said, name something else after the departed mayor, perhaps a new building, park, etc.
I'd like to hear some opinions from people that live in the Atlanta area, as i'm not too familiar with the history of ATL.
MCOtoATL From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4109 times:
The fact that Maynard Jackson is black is irrelevant to this situation. I agree that the name should remain Hartsfield. But the fact is that Mayor Jackson is credited with transforming Atlanta into the major metropolitan city that it is, and he was behind much of the airport expansion and many people agree that the airport is what it is today because of his influence.
Morecy From United States of America, joined May 2000, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4041 times:
I'm sure Jackson was a great guy... so re-name "Main Street" or some building/facility/stadium in his honour. Even though it's just the airport's name, by changing it, you're basically rescinding an honour originally given to Hartsfield. Doesn't seem right to me.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3953 times:
If Hartsfield is renamed, it should be called DELTA AIRPORT......while the city of Atlanta has grown and certainly represents the New South, the main reason for ATL's huge growth is Delta Airlines and its decision, many years ago, to make ATL the first real connecting hub in the US. DL's determination to expand its operations at ATL, and DL's desire to offer nonstop service out of ATL to almost every domestic city and many, many international destinations around the globe have made ATL the airport that it is today.
Pendrilsaint From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3952 times:
Hmmm , they could rename piedmont park in Jackon's honor. But renaming an airport already named for a great mayor is just crazy. I can understand renaming Newark which is just a generic city name, but taking someone else's name off seems mean spirited.
777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3865 times:
Ever since Maynard first was mayor there has been a constant effort to rename every street and building in Atlanta after black people. It costs a lot of money for stationary and other printed items that businesses have to pay for not the mention of cost to tax payers for new signs. This also causes confusion because when you drive downtown now you have to buy new street maps because names of streets have changed.
The right thing to do is leave Mayor Hartsfield's name as it is. If they really want to honor Maynard then maybe they could name the zoo downtown after him.
Exusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3793 times:
I like the comment about ATL airport being the way it is today because of Maynard Jacksons influence. You couldn't be more right.
Hartsfield is a great big PIGGY bank that is outwardly corrupt. If any of you have eaten at TGI Fridays on Concourse B, you have supported the Maynard Jackson estate. How did Jackson get the TGI Fridays concession? Well the concessions contracts went out to "disenfranchised minorities" exclusively. It was designed to help low to mid income minorities get airport concessions contracts. Mr. Jackson, at the time a multimillionaire, obtained a contract for TGI Fridays under these auspices.
Numerous other contractors, including the parking concessionaires and the providors of the fill dirt for the 5th runway have contributed significantly to the reelection slush funds of the mayors following Mr. Jackson, including the now departed Bill Campbell who was receiving these reelection funds, even though he was INELLIGIBLE for reelection.
If anything should be named after Mr. Jackson, it should be the mens sh..ter on B- Concourse.
As a resident of the City of Atlanta, the meddling of the City Concil and the desire to rename the airport is turning into a race battle. it is compete and utter nonsense that need to stop. The inept city council members, many of which are corrupt and one of which has been brought up on drug charges (Ralph Abernathy III) will be canned as the demographics of the city are beginning to skew towards a more conservative (republican) base.
I have observed the current mayor, Shirley Franklin endeaver to clean up the years of ineptitude and corruption at City Hall, but all political favors have been called in for this issue and fear that she may be placed in a position she doesn't want ot be in and may lose some political capital as a result.
As for who gets to pay for the resignage and expense of renaming the field. the taxpayers get to foot the bill.
Srbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3781 times:
I personally think that if they are going to change the name of the airport, then the airport should be renamed to one of the following:
Atlanta International Airport (Actually the old name before Hartsfield)
Candler International Airport (The first name of the airport was Candler Field)
James E. Carter International Airport
The name should remain Hartsfield Atlanta International Airport. The current Midfield Complex was already in the early stages of being built at the time Maynard Jackson became mayorso he really had no real input into what became the current facility. It was Mayor Jackson who required minority participation in the construction of the new complex, and in the retail businesses at the airport. Some of the policies he forced on the airport he later benefited from, after his third term, he became a partner in a company that now owns several food outlets in the airport. Just because he was mayor when the current facility opened does not automatically mean he deserves to have his name on the airport. William Berry Hartsfield is who had the foresight to get Atlanta into the commerical airport business back when he was just an Alderman, and Asa Candler's former racetrack near Hapeville became the world's busiest airport, mainly because of Mayor Hartsfield.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3760 times:
I agree, I think it should remain William B. Hartsfield International Airport. It was WBH who turned a small cornstrip into what is the #2 runway. He made the biggest impact on that airport. I am in no way racist, but I do not feel like, just because these people want it, that it should be renamed Jackson International Airport. It just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Nonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3716 times:
Let's see: We have a Jackson Hole, WY, a Jackson, MS, a Jacksonville, FL, and a Jacksonville, NC. Do we really need another "Jackson" airport? I can see the frustration it would create for reservations agents. I am going to laugh when I here a trip report about someone who thought they were going to Atlanta and wound up in Mississippi.
Since the name for ATL is already taken, it seems ovbious that it should not be renamed.
Luisca From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3640 times:
I may be flamed, but dont take this as a racist comment. i myself am not white, but i have a felling that in the US the new victims of racism are the white majority, things like affirmative action only increase the line that separates them, the NAACP is in my opinion a very racist organazation, becouse they constantly whant the rights of white people to be put after the ones of black people. Hartsfield was a good mayor, he promoted ATL and turned it into what it is, Jackson was a good mayor to, but sorry, the airport is taken, whay should they violate hartsfield´s right to be honored in favor of Jackson, isnt their equallity in the US. so i am defenatly against this.
Tu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 688 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3607 times:
It's probably already done. Those of you who live in/around this great hole known as Atlanta know that. There is not one thing anyone can do about it. This whole area is a JOKE. The urban planning that went into Atlanta could have been done by toddlers.(Even a toddler could design a more effecient/user accesable train system than MARTA.........North, South, East West in the perimeter.......give me a break!!!). Those with their hands in other people's pockets keep digging deeper and screaming louder that they are being overlooked. Look how the AJC(the local paper) treats DL, the STATE's largest employer!!!! Just my 2 cents.
Elwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3470 times:
Atlanta isn't part of the "New South". It's now a northern city who's location is an accident of geography.
At least Atlanta has MARTA. Many other major American cities have nothing of the kind. And MARTA is slowly being expanded. Were it not for the idiots in Gwinette County (and I used to live there, so I can say this), it would have been extended beyond the perimiter long ago.
As for the airport being renamed: Well, it happens frequently enough. Louis Armstrong recently was honored with being the new name for MSY, even though Moisant had built the original strip (which is why it's MSY, not ORL or NOL or NOR, etc). I don't like it myself, but I'm not a Georgia resident, anymore (and haven't been for quite awhile). If they're going to rename it, they will, and there's nothing any of us can do about it, unless we live in Atlanta...
Just as long as they don't rename MCI "Emmanuel Cleaver International Airport"! No one who tells a third of his constituency to "Shut up and pay your taxes," should ever be honored with an airport's name. Especially if the airport is in the same region he told off...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
Caetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 917 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3395 times:
I totally agree. As a former GA resident who still considers it home, I hate to see this. The same groups are trying to do the same types of things here in South Carolina. I believe that having the airport named in honor of the man who made it what it is, William B. Hartsfield, was the right thing to do. To change it now at the whim of a few people, would be a great injustice. I am not racist at all, but echo Luisca's comments. The tides of the discrimination are turning.
Anyway, I hope the airport name remains the same. However, I am not holding out much hope.
A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her. - W.C. Fields