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What Does 'SUD' Stand For On KLM 747-200's?  
User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

Hi,

On these photos of KLM 747-200's, the aircraft is marked as "747-206B(SUD)." What does 'SUD' designate and why do only KLM's 747-200's have this designation? Thanks in advance.


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User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1515 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5242 times:

These were B747-200s which were converted to -300 standards by Boeing by stretching the upper deck.

SUD - Stretched Upper Deck.

Rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

Yes, they were converted in the mid 80's to give them the enlarged upper deck of the -300/-400's and SUD stands for "Stretched Upper Deck".


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

When KLM ordered 3 factory new 747-300s (after the program was launched by Swissair in the early 1980s), KLM updated many (I think 8) of their newer 747-200s......the extra seating capacity of the streched upper deck (SUD) was especially interesting for KLM which operates many 747-300s in a Combi Configuation.

KLM's original 747-200s did not get the SUD treatment and left the KLM fleet upon the arrival of the 747-400.


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5097 times:

SAA also have 742 SUD's don't they ?

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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5037 times:

SAA also have 742 SUD's don't they?

No! Big grin

Only airlines that converted 747-200s to SUD standard were KLM and UTA. The UTA aircraft went to Air France, some of KLM's are still with KLM, the rest are parked at Mojave. JAL operate two 747-100SR/SUD models - if I remember correctly one was a conversion and the other was a built as a 747-100SR/SUD.

Andy


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9712 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5009 times:

I remember seeing the 'SCD' designation. What does that stand for?

Regards A388


User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4984 times:

Enjoy the KLM B747-200 SUD because the will be gone soon. They are getting replaced by B777-200's beginning the end of this year.

SCD means Side Cargo Door, most likely to see them on combi's and freighters.

Martin21



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User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

When QF first got their 300's they referred to them as SUD's, until someone pointed out that SUD in medical terms is Sudden Unexpectd Death, hence forth they were known as EUD's, Enlarged Upper Deck !!
RL


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

EUD's, Enlarged Upper Deck !!

Thought EUD was Extended Upper Deck?



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7447 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

A388- SCD stands for 'side cargo door'

filler...........



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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

And ECD's extended upper deck.


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User currently offlineDispatch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Skymonster;

the exact designation according to Boeing is 747SR-146B(SUD)

No conversions, both delivered factory new, with, I believe, the LOOOONGEST Boeing designation ever.

Peter


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