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What Does 'SUD' Stand For On KLM 747-200's?

N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8
Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Hi,

On these photos of KLM 747-200's, the aircraft is marked as "747-206B(SUD)." What does 'SUD' designate and why do only KLM's 747-200's have this designation? Thanks in advance.

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Vimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1470 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

These were B747-200s which were converted to -300 standards by Boeing by stretching the upper deck.

SUD - Stretched Upper Deck.

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Capital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Yes, they were converted in the mid 80's to give them the enlarged upper deck of the -300/-400's and SUD stands for "Stretched Upper Deck".

Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.

Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

When KLM ordered 3 factory new 747-300s (after the program was launched by Swissair in the early 1980s), KLM updated many (I think 8) of their newer 747-200s......the extra seating capacity of the streched upper deck (SUD) was especially interesting for KLM which operates many 747-300s in a Combi Configuation.

KLM's original 747-200s did not get the SUD treatment and left the KLM fleet upon the arrival of the 747-400.

Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2958 times:

SAA also have 742 SUD's don't they ?

Smile

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Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2898 times:

SAA also have 742 SUD's don't they?

No! Big grin

Only airlines that converted 747-200s to SUD standard were KLM and UTA. The UTA aircraft went to Air France, some of KLM's are still with KLM, the rest are parked at Mojave. JAL operate two 747-100SR/SUD models - if I remember correctly one was a conversion and the other was a built as a 747-100SR/SUD.

Andy

A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9078 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2870 times:

I remember seeing the 'SCD' designation. What does that stand for?

Regards A388

Martin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2845 times:

Enjoy the KLM B747-200 SUD because the will be gone soon. They are getting replaced by B777-200's beginning the end of this year.

SCD means Side Cargo Door, most likely to see them on combi's and freighters.

Martin21

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Jupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 757 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2823 times:

When QF first got their 300's they referred to them as SUD's, until someone pointed out that SUD in medical terms is Sudden Unexpectd Death, hence forth they were known as EUD's, Enlarged Upper Deck !!
RL

Ryanair!!! From Singapore, joined Mar 2002, 4652 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

EUD's, Enlarged Upper Deck !!

Thought EUD was Extended Upper Deck?

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United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7159 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

A388- SCD stands for 'side cargo door'

filler...........

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Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

And ECD's extended upper deck.

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Dispatch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Skymonster;

the exact designation according to Boeing is 747SR-146B(SUD)

No conversions, both delivered factory new, with, I believe, the LOOOONGEST Boeing designation ever.

Peter

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