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User currently offlineElal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

I am not sure if it was already mentioned on the forums or not....
From my source at Thai Airways, Thai is going to purchase 3 a340-500s and 5 a340-600s. They will also acquire 7 744s from UAL.

enjoy!
elal106

[Edited 2003-08-06 00:09:34]

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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 22 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Hey Yoni,

While there were topics in the past, there is none with today's news.

LOI was signed back in April but they got government cabinet approval for the above mentioned Airbuses and 9 B747-400s (2 new, 7 used) just today. Deliveries are expected as follows:

Octover 2003 - 6 x B747-400
October 2004 - 3 x B747-400 and 2 x A340-500
October 2005 - 2 x A340-600 and 1 x A340-600
October 2006 - 3 x A340-600

Regards,
Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 12 months 20 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Great news for Thai... I think Orient Thai should give UA a call  Nuts

User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (10 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Actually to correct my above post, Airbus deliveries will only begin in March 2005 but I don't have an exact schedule.

Jeremiah







Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

I am looking forwarding to see with new Thai Airbus A345/6, too. When will be to beginning nonstop out of BKK hub? Well, talk ya later!  Smile

User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

Another win for Airbus because Boeing was to slow.

Thai had to buy the A340 because the 777 does not have the range of the A340-500. The 777-300ER was to late to win this deal.


User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2557 times:

I found this on the Airbus site.

http://www.airbus.com/dynamic/media/press_releases.asp#1348


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4755 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2534 times:

THAI should have just ordered 8 Boeing 777-200ERs or 8 B 777-200LRs!

By the way when are MAS, TG and JAL going to be replacing their B 737-400s?
MAS nearly has 50 B 734s whilst TG has a dozen and JAL too around the same.

I hope BOEING makes an aggressive attempt to make sure they all order the B 737-800 and not the A 320!


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2532 times:

So with 6 new 744 by the end of the year, any chance off new BKK-via(?)- SFO service?
ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2499 times:

Behramjee,

THAI should have just ordered 8 Boeing 777-200ERs or 8 B 777-200LRs!

The 777-200ER has 1,500km less range then the A340-500. Thai needs a lot of range to make their BKK - US flights.

The 777-200LR is not available yet.

They are probably very happy with their A330.

[Edited 2003-08-06 22:18:07]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2486 times:

Thai had to buy the A340 because the 777 does not have the range of the A340-500

Hate to tell ya, but you dont have a clue what you're talking about  Big grin

1) The 772LR has longer range than the A345
2) TG prefers RR for its twinjets
3) TG's had big problems with ETOPS in the past, they even had to stop operating their 773s at ETOPS120 for a while... no way they were going to buy a twin for their ultralonghaul


User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2473 times:

ConcordeBoy,

Hate to tell ya, but you dont have a clue what you're talking about.

1) The 772LR has longer range than the A345


Correct me if I am wrong but I read in another thread that the 777-200LR is not yet available.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2469 times:

The 777-200LR is not available yet.

Again, false information.

The aircraft is available for purchase; and while current EIS is scheduled for January 2006... Boeing has made known that it can hasten rollout (and therefore) EIS by 7 months should a client request it.


User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2457 times:

Sorry for that. I got this from another post. Thanks for making thinks clear.

3) TG's had big problems with ETOPS in the past, they even had to stop operating their 773s at ETOPS120 for a while... no way they were going to buy a twin for their ultralonghaul

What kind of problems did they have?


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 2440 times:

too many inflight-shutdowns for various reasons.

Should be noted that they chose to temporarily discontinue ETOPS on the 773s.... they werent yet at the point of being forced to


User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 12 months ago) and read 2417 times:

ConcordeBoy,

Since you seem to be a 777 expert you may answer this questions. Since when are the 777-200LR and the A340-500 for sale, and how many have been ordered of each type?

It is very interesting because this are really very special aircraft that serve the best on very long flights.



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 12 months ago) and read 2333 times:

A345 was launched November 1997

It has orders from Emirates, Thai, ILFC, and Singapore Airlines. It also had two orders from Air Canada, but that airline deferred theirs shortly before delivery.


***

772LR was originally launched in February 2000 but was suspended with only 10% engineering completed in September 2001. It was later relaunched with higher range/payload specifications in November 2002.

It currently has 3 orders from EVA Airways and 2 from Pakistan International Airlines. No word yet on whether those airlines will take the highest MTOW "tanked" option... but it's expected that they will.


User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 12 months ago) and read 2310 times:

This means the A340-500 has a 5 year advantage.

Was the 777-200LR a reaction of Boeing to the A340-500?


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (10 years 12 months ago) and read 2310 times:

ConcordeBoy,

It also apparenly has two orders (Air Canada destined planes) from Royal Brunei. While it isn't on the Airbus books yet, plenty of local pilots are convinced the order is confirmed with delivery in April 2004.

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 12 months ago) and read 2290 times:

Was the 777-200LR a reaction of Boeing to the A340-500?

Nope... it was the descendant of a failed Boeing proposal: the 772X

That aircraft would have been RR powered (producing 104,000lb thrust from each engine) and would have had a range barely over 8000mn. The two airlines this was primarily aimed at (MH and QF) wanted no part of it.

If you want more detailed information, Alain Mengus wrote an aboslutely brilliant article on the subject. It can be seen at www.airtransportbiz.com


User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (10 years 12 months ago) and read 2271 times:



I love to see Thai flight the 'royal' 340-500 and -600 ! Far better than anything Boeing has to offer. Lately it seems Boeing is behind at least 5 years and then produces an exact copy of the airbus product.



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineOsteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

Thanks for the article ConcordeBoy!

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

I love to see Thai flight the 'royal' 340-500 and -600 ! Far better than anything Boeing has to offer.

Being one who prefers the increased safety of a twinjet on longhaul... I certainly wont be flying TG anytime soon  Laugh out loud



Thanks for the article ConcordeBoy!

No prob. Check out the rest of that site... good stuff  Big grin


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Being one who prefers the increased safety of a twinjet on longhaul... I certainly wont be flying TG anytime soon

Hahahahahah.

Its still as funny now as it was the first time you said it.  Laugh out loud

N


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Still true since then as well  Big grin

25 Osteogenesis : ConcordeBoy, Still true since then as well On witch facts are you backing this?
26 KL911 : I think he's dreaming. There are NO facts to justify this
27 ConcordeBoy : Actually, I was referring to me never going anywhere near TG. If you want to know/see corroboration for my preference re: twinjets over quads on longh
28 Debn : Where will Thai fly those A345s to? Los Angeles or San Francisco? Since they ordered only three A345s, they can only have one non-stop flight to US fr
29 Osteogenesis : ConcordeBoy, The article is very interesting. After reading this article I think the crisis of the airline industry was in favour of Boeing. Airbus r
30 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : Are there any plans of Airbus to develop an A330 to compete with the 777 long range versions? Sure is! They slapped two more engines on it, stretched
31 AvObserver : "I love to see Thai flight the 'royal' 340-500 and -600 ! Far better than anything Boeing has to offer. Lately it seems Boeing is behind at least 5 ye
32 Osteogenesis : AvObserver, You are absolutely correct. I am also an Airbus supporter but I don’t like posts that just want to start a fight. Lets just ignore them
33 Post contains images Osteogenesis : ConcordeBoy, They slapped two more engines on it, stretched out the fuselage a bit, gave it a heavy wing, and called it.... A345 You know what I mean.
34 Star_member : does anyone know if any of the new B747-400 will be used to replace the B747-300 on sydney to bangkok v.v flights in the near future.
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