Demoose From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 26 Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
Heard from another website that MyTravel are to retire their DC-10-10's at the end of September. Thought it would be of interest to some people on here. If they do go, i'll be sad to see them go, certainly a nice site to see at MAN, but they've been going tech alot lately. Don't know if the DC-10-30 is going too, but I guess its a case of get on them while you can now.
One can only wonder what will replace them, although i'd guess at nothing in the near future atleast.
(GKirk - lets hope they are still in service when you go to TFS!)
Styles From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 89 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2192 times:
Where does My Travel fly the DC10s to? What configuration are they in? All Y class or 2 cabins?
Demoose From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2126 times:
MYT's DC-10's are based at Manchester and fly mainly throughout Europe, on the high density routes to Spain, Canaries, some parts of Greece and the DC-10-30 does the occasional long haul route to North America.
Think they're all in a Y class configuration, seating around 360 passengers. So if all 4 of them go, they're certainly going to lose alot of seat capacity.
Noelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2054 times:
They're in at EMA a lot training, all in the interim colour scheme.
My guess is the A330 will replace them on the European routes - LTU use them on the PMI/IBZ and other high density routes, so there's no reason why MYT can't!
Langfordkyle From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 52 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2035 times:
GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 59 Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
Im flying on DC-10 on October! Nooooooo! Well, I flew one last October G-TDTW so at least if it is true, then I have flown on a DC-10 already
The DC-10-10s have all Y seating for 379 passengers, the DC-10-30 has 361 seats.
Ah well, if it is the A330 to replace them, well, a new a/c type for me to fly on
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
So it seems they're not renewing the cerificates, maybe BYDA will stay in service, if they can justify the cost of running a sole DC-10 and associated maintenance costs.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
The DC-10s won't be replaced - It appears that 'DA will be retained over the winter as a standby anyway.
The DC-10s were really only useful in the summer, and tended to sit idle during the winter because they have too many seats to fill. Thats fine for the DC-10 where lease rates are low, but it's too expensive to do that with A330s 30, to turn a profit with aircraft that have higher lease rates you have to maximise use of your aircraft over the whole year.
The A330s will continue to be operated on longhaul routes, with support from the B767s.
Shorthaul routes will be operated by the A320/321/757/767 fleets.
Jmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1828 times:
I thought they intended to keep them a bit longer as they are the only aircraft the MyTravel group actually own?? However, when they released models of the new colour scheme, all aircraft wore the orange while the DC10 models only had the interim c/s they are currently in, so perhaps that was a clue??
Demoose, you said they've been going tech alot? Can't be as bad as the 767s, especially G-SJMC, that things awful!!
GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 59 Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1809 times:
I hear G-DIMB has been playing up a lot recently as well.
Ah well, so it looks like this is possibly my last chance for a flight on a pax DC-10, so Im gonna enjoy it
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
There've been one or two instances of the A330s doing Euroroutes recently at MAN but there does seem to a regularly timetabled service on Sundays (can't remember where to but the flight number is 191/2) with the aircraft going to Toronto in the late afternoon.
GoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1789 times:
MyTravel are in a 'bit' of a financial mess at the moment - they can't afford to operate these old aircraft, let alone maintain them, even moreso if they do little else other than cause trouble. The company needs to reduce its services anyway to get back in to profit, since at the moment, planes are leaving empty!
I'm sure that the removal of the DC-10s, though sad, is essential to the survival of the company. Shame they couldn't go bust and take their silly name with them I say!
Demoose From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1757 times:
GoAround,
If only removing 3 DC-10's out of service would solve all MyTravel Group's problems. It would have been done along time ago if it was so simple.
Can't believe some of the things you have just said, wanting a company to go bust? Maybe if you had parents or friends employed by the company you wouldn't be so click happy with opinions like that.
GoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1736 times:
It was sarcastic... hence the exclamation mark. I guess they were keeping the DC-10s until the airworthiness certificate expired since they own them and had no other way to get rid of them, and it was more economical to have them flying than on the ground.
I doubt they're good for MyTravel, however, since if they were good for the company, they'd be kept.
Sorry if I upset anyone with my comments, but it wasn't meant harmfully. I was suggesting that renaming the company MyTravel was silly - Going Places and Airtours were recognised brands. They should have kept them. I was suggesting that the rebranding and confused direction of this company did not contribute to its finances.
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7702 posts, RR: 55 Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1642 times:
I think they had to change their name to SOMETHING cos Airtours, at least, was a by-word in the travel biz for shoddy service and massive delays. When I was a travel agt I would generally steer people away from Airtours unless price was their highest priority.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
GoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
Diesel1
I base it on statements and reports I have seen on TV news reporting 'massive decline in passenger numbers' and 'tumbling revenue.' I hope that answers your question
Empty is an exaggeration, but we know they aren't empty, but certainly not full. I think you understand what I mean.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 59 Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1574 times:
I can assure you that MyTravel's flights continue to enjoy very high loadfactors!
They have seen a decline in forward bookings, which has meant they have to sell more holidays on the last minute market at a lower price, reducing revenue. Margins have also been hit by poor cost controls and pricing decisions at the company, which are being addressed.
Diesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1624 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1491 times:
GoAround - I don't want to be harsh, therefore take the following comments as constructive criticism - your postings need to be accurate and not filled with exaggeration and halftruth.
Keep it simple, sarcasm and exaggeration do not always transfer well to the written word - just let the details speak for themselves.
I believe you may be correct about reducing services - though in my opinion a distinction needs to be drawn between the airline operation and the My Travel group, as the problem is more likely the number of holidays needing to be sold by the group, rather than a problem with the airline operation - afaik there are no details on the airlines profitability (or otherwise)
Crosswind's post explains the issues well.
The retirement of the DC-10s will aid cost control through reduction of types operated (this is fine so long as those rumoured 747s don't come along!)
As far as My Travel Lite - who knows - a number of new services for the winter, but my perception is that they aren't creating an lo-co identity of their own, and seem to be a part of the main group with an image of 'charter operator', though I'm sure BHX members would be able to comment on this more fully
Jaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1348 times:
Booked 21st May
£560 for 4 of us
BHX-AGP
For one week
The same flight booking now would cost £720..
Josh
25 Diesel1: That there are still seats available at the height of the summer season, and at a reasonable rate (though not quite so favourable as when you booked!)
26 Jaspike: I was wondering that about David Dickinson.. maybe it's because the flights are supposedly as cheap as chips. I'll do my trip report on the Monday I g
27 Jaspike: MyTravel Lite don't even advertise much at all.. I've only seen small adverts in newspapers and that's it. I know someone who's going to PMI soon and
28 Bhxforever: "MyTravel Lite don't even advertise much at all.." Well where I live you cant get away from the MyTravel Advertising! Its all over the midlands radio,
29 Lowsonboy: B-YDA was based at LGW last summer but this year we have only had a DC10 down occasionally. I was wondering a couple of weeks ago how much longer they
30 Cancidas: does anyone still operate DC-10-10's on scheduled revenue service?
31 LYNDON: GoAround let me tell you for a fact as i work for them i would not call a flight with 3-4 empty seats per flight an empty a/c ? Never mind empty you k
32 Solnabo: These DC 10´s are older than the pyramides Flying for Scanair in the 80´s, before that UA in the 70´s..... Scary, cuz I think of Siux City! Hopeful
33 Ant72LBA: I remember seeing one of MyTravels DC-10s taking off from LBA within the last couple of years. I seem to remember it was diverted from MAN for some re
34 ACEregular: MyTravel´s ageing DC-10´s are basically not helping the finances at the moment. It is only a measure of self preservation for the company that they
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