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Usairways, First Class On Shuttles  
User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1416 posts, RR: 11
Posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

I believe I am correct when I say I read in the USAToday that Usairways is going to have first class on there shuttle service between Boston, New York, and Washington D.C. I think they said the price would be around over $1,000. I am sorry this is just my opinion, but who in there right mind would pay that much money for a first class ticket on a one hour or less flight? I just don't get it, I mean I know some people love to get frequent flier miles, but paying that much for such a short flight would be nuts in my opinion. Tell me what you think, if you agree with me or not.

God bless everyone through Jesus Christ with lots of love,


God bless through Jesus, Jeff
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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

Stupid move. Corporations won't pay for First Class on 35-50 minute flights like that. Yes, the airlines are suffering, but some of them are managed by plain idiots.


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

the reason has got to be to get rid of the dedicated Shuttle fleet and allow mainline a/c to flow through the Shuttle markets for better utilization and lower costs.

User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

Nah, it's not nuts in my opinion. There are a lot of people (including myself) that would rather spend a flight in first class instead of coach, no matter how long the flight is. Even though it might not be a tremendous amount, I'm sure that there are plenty of people who will pay that $1000 for that seat on that hour or hour and a half flight.

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User currently offlineNygfan84 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Hey cut the Jesus stuff out man. I know thats your belief but please keep it to yourself because some of us dont wanna be blessed by Jesus. Thanks

User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

I don't know the US frequent flyer program, do their elites get free upgrades on domestic flights on full-fare coach tickets?

If so, then it's also likely a move to help try and pull more business from their elites who might otherwise fly the most convienent shuttle flight.


User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1416 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3259 times:


I do believe that elites from United can get upgrades on Usairways.


I certainly don't mean to offend you, but I will not hide my beliefs. If you don't choose to believe in what I believe in that is up to you. However if you don't like me saying that then I suggest that you not read my comments. I truely do pray that you change your mind about Jesus.


God bless through Jesus, Jeff
User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 8731 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

DL Shuttle is basically 'Business' class throughout, with Leather Seats, Free Drinks and snacks, and 36ins of leg room, with a 3-3 layout.

I presume that US will revert to the 31in legroom in economy, and no service, except for free drinks for the eight upgraded passengers in 'First'.

For the remaining 80 passengers in economy lack of legroom and service will drive them to either Amtrack or Delta.

The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1845 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

Imo, it seems an enormous waste of money, or ff miles, to get a wider seat on a flight that is in the air barely 20 minutes between DCA and LGA, and about 45 minutes or so between DCA and BOS. I don't know the air time between LGA and BOS, but I'm sure it's equally short.

I guess this is just another example of American extravagance. No wonder we're so unpopular in other countries.

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User currently offlineCaptaink From Grenada, joined May 2001, 5119 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Remember Bestwestern US current shuttle fleet do offer 34-37in legroom. And they are not totally removing those airccraft or their configuration anytime soon from service. Those A320 series Shuttles are great aircrafts to fly on.

So DL wont be offering something that new, or special that the customers wouldnt have been able to get at US with regard to legroom. I am not sure about catering though. Does US serve drinks/snacks on their current shuttle service?

Just a side point though? Which Shuttle service in that corridor currently drags the most business?

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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8657 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Jeffrey1970, I would also prefer not to be blessed by Jesus.

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 9027 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 3017 times:

Back to topic -

I don't really see this working well for US. First off, no one is going to pay for those first class seats. It's going to be all elites bumped up to first. The Shuttles are always loaded with elites, so US is going to be making no money off those seats, unless it is a passenger connecting at BOS, LGA, or DCA on a F class itenerary. It basically sounds like the plane will be a mainline plane with Shuttle stickers slapped on after "US Airways". The passenger product will go down, as the majority of the customers will lose the leather seat and that extra 3-5 inches of legroom. I would guess that these passengers might switch over to Delta for these amenities.

The only good for US out of this (as I see it) is that you will have one, unified fleet type (once the A320s are converted). On DL, you have 2 types of 733s (Shuttle and mainline), which you can't really interchange.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4676 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

The first class service is likely just to treat the elite passengers and they don't plan on making any money off of them. As far as service throughout the rest of the cabin, I have been told it won't change - but will let someone else comment.

User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 7516 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

I see at least three potential problems here.

The first is that Delta will now be offering a more desirable Shuttle product than (and possess a potential marketing advantage over) US Airways for the vast majority of its Shuttle passengers. While a dozen passengers will enjoy First Class seating on the US Shuttle (and on many flights, there will likely be plenty of elites to fill those seats but that's Problem #3), the rest will sit in standard coach seating -- and Delta will continue to offer additional legroom in its Shuttle fleet. Given a choice for the same price, I'd take the extra legroom in a heartbeat.

The second is that US will lose capacity (4 seats per flight) with little potential for extra revenue. It is possible that by offering a guaranteed F seat for its Preferred passengers paying full fare that they might gain some incremental sales of full-fare tickets.

The third is that US likely has enough Chairman's Preferred members using the shuttles that contention among the CP's for those F seats might lead to some dissatisfaction among those customers.

While I recognize the operational advantages of no longer having to maintain a separate Shuttle fleet, it must also be acknowledged that there is a cost to eliminating the higher quality of Shuttle service which many frequent travelers on the route have come to expect.

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