Johnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2637 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2558 times:
I know at least one destination was Aruba, as my brother from Louisville flew there on UPS Airlines for a package vacation.
At Louisville Airport, there were also signs showing baggage claim for UPS Airlines.
Sorry, don't know much more than that. It was an experiment with a charter company, whereby they fitted seats into idle UPS aircraft probably on weekends, when demand was low for overnight air services.
UPS ended the service within the past couple of years. At the time I read about it, I remember thinking there wasn't any one overriding concern against the venture. I'm guessing at the heart of the matter was, that UPS is not a vacation company and felt like they were straying from their mission.
ClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2527 times:
Flights were operated by a bunch of ex-EA B727-25QC's during daylight, which then were converted to freighters during the night. Once read an interesting article in the Airways back then. The article also expressed 'between the lines', that pax was quite frankly a bit concerned when they saw their plane at the gate. Maybe one reason they stopped ops. What I remember were operations to mexican destinations and I once saw a counter of them at BWI.
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Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12275 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2503 times:
They flew as a charter only, so the financial risk was always the company who was chartering them. The charter market at the time was full, you had ATA and Sun Country both competing for the same business. Also UPS received a lot of attention for this, I remember they never really did a whole lot to promote it or seek business. The did a lot of last minute stuff and did some flights for a cruise line I worked for at the time.
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1790 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2405 times:
As said by ClipperNo1, they were using some 727-25QC regs N950UP, N951UP, N95.... on behalf of Vacation Express. Some of their destinations included Louisville, Aruba and Cancun. The service was acceptable (remember that on charter flights the pax get whatever the tour operator pays for). They never hired their own F/A, as they got some from a crew broker, nevertheless they used their own pilots to whom they gave some training about passengers operations.
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Caetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 914 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2351 times:
I remember reading something about them serving Atlanta as well, maybe even being based there, would have to dig a little deeper to find out though. It sounds to me like it was an experiment in increasing aircraft utilization. I think Aloha or another Hawaii based airiline does something similar. Slide in seats on pallets that fit the same dimesions as the cargo containers, and slide them right in, and use the aircraft all day long. Not a bad idea if there is the business I guess. Was probably just experimental, and very minimal investment.
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Air2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
The aircraft, there were 5 of them, operated pax flights on the weekend and were converted back to frieghter for normal cargo operations. Sometimes, during the heavy vacation season, we would keep one in config all week to pick up any extra work. Cancidas: We had the window plugs removed and installed windows.
As I recall the registrations were:
Raven111 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
Yes I remember when they use to have those flights. I have friends that have flown on them from IAD to Cancun and also CLT to Cancun. I remember them joking before the trip about how they will have to carry lawn chairs so they would have something to sit on. They always flew on 727's.
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