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AA Starts LAX-SJU  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32689 posts, RR: 72
Posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

AA is starting LAX-SJU service, non-stop. Will operate FrSa to SJU and SaSu from SJU with a 767-300ER. This is a former TWA route and will be one of AA's longest domestic routes, with only certain Hawaii routes being longer.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030807/dath023_1.html

American Airlines will continue to operate thrice-daily, same plane LAX-SJU service with a stop in FLL.


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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

I could have sworn AA already had done this route.


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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

AA operated the route for awhile after they acquired TW... this was one of TW's biggest losers.

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

This route could work on a twice weekly basis, TWA operated the route but it was on a daily basis (later reduced to weekends only ), and AA planned on opening this route a couple of years ago but the plans were shelved due to poor advance bookings. I believe the flight will be a aroundv 6 to 7 hours (or is it shorter ?) Wouldn't the 757 be better for the route ?
Good to have nonstop flights to the West Coast once again.
Chepos



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

After AA bought TWA the route was discontinued like 3 months after the purchase. Im surprised AA is launching the route once again and with the 767-300.
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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

IMHO - a portion of these seats I am sure are going to be sold to cruise lines for there pax, so it is a win win situation and sure money for the airline.


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

TW flew it with a 752.


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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

During the time when TW had the SJU focus city most flights were either operated with the 757 or the MD-80 (the only exception was a daily 767-200 flight to JFK). What I meant was that AA intended to use the 767-300 when they were first planing to launch LAX-SJU back in 95 or 96 (whcih they never started because of poor advance bookings).
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User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

The route was operated years ago as a thru flight via MIA on a DC10, perhaps that is what you were thinking about.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Ryan, AA previously operated this route with a stop in DFW. It was flight 606, LAX-DFW-SJU with a 763.


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User currently offlineAa-san From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

If I remember correctly, I recall seeing an AA flight arriving in LAX in the early 90s from San Juan. I recall somebody saying it was a non-stop though. I could be wrong about the non-stop, or it could have been another Latin American destination that I am confusing with SJU. Were there any other flights that AA had to Latin America, or was this, in fact, not a non-stop and rather the flight mentioned above that stopped over in DFW??? Any answeres would be appreciated.

User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

It was not a non stop, it was a thru flight via MIA.. It was flow using DC10 equip...

User currently offlineThunder9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

I used to work on the ramp in LAX for AA and in 1989-1990, we had A300 service LAX-SJU. Believe me, we had bags all over the place around the Christmas Holiday travel season. :-(

If AA uses a 767 on the route, it would be for the freight capacity, I would think. The 763 is configured 30/182, and for a total of 212 seats, where the 752 (after MRTC is gone) will be 22/166 for a total of 188. Not a huge difference in pax load available, so it must be the freight driving this a/c choice.

-J




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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

I am just so damn confused... I may have been thinking of TWA, because the first thing that came to me when I saw this thread was 757...Did AA ever do SFO-SJU?


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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

No American has never done (SFO-SJU)- At least to my knowledge.
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User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 629 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2754 times:

This is a surprise to me too, but airlines don't just begin routes out of nowhere.

After American reduced the San Juan hub so substantially, it seems odd that they are adding lines to San Juan.

Freight seems like a likely answer.
Or perhaps they're trying to ease some congestion in Miami by feeding Carribbean passengers through SJU.


User currently offlineUpsmd11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 809 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
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I was just looking at the timing of this flight on the AA schedule. Maybe they are hoping to draw the winter cruise crowd. With an arrival into SJU at 10:24 it fits perfectly into getting people onto a cruise ship -- since most leave on Saturday or Sunday anyway.

The flight back (12:00noon) could be a little early but if you have a ship that docks at 8:00am it's possible for many people to make this flight.

Just my random .02

Regards,
John


User currently offlineAluminumShower From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

You are right... It's timed for good connections to the cruise lines. I wouldn't be surprised to see the trip go to at least 5/7 sometime next year if it does well. Additionally, I think AA will be using the 763 because of the stage length. A 757 can make it one way, but because of the prevailing winds, I don't think that they can make it back the other way non stop.


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