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Most Competitive Route  
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

What's the most competitive route in the world
My say is New York-London
with British AIrways, Virgin, Continental, American, United, Air India and probably a few more.


What now?
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User currently offlineStyles From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Other ones to consider would be:

BOS NYC
AA,DL,CO,US, Amtrak,

DUB LON
EI, BA, BD, FR


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

NYC to LON was going to be mine as well, what about NYC to FLL also seems to be a crowded route at the moment.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2532 times:

New York Area to Miami Area
American
Delta (Song)
jetBlue
Continental.



What now?
User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6416 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Can Air India actually sell tickets from New York to London?


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineFunflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Yes 727LOVER Air India can and does sell tickets to London from New York.
That is a stop on there way to India.


I think that the most competitive Route is Northeast area non-stop to California. Almost every airline has non=stop flights.



Who cares about status?
User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

"Can Air India actually sell tickets from New York to London?

They sure can and do.

UN_732,

You missed Kuwait Airways on your list, 4 times a week LHR-JFK. So the list is now British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Continental, American, United, Air India, and Kuwait Airways

SR 103


User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

I would consider the most competitive as having the most airlines serving the route. Those that I can think of are -

1st: New York to London
- Air India, American Airlines, British Airways, Continental Airlines, Kuwait Airways, United Airlines, Virgin Atlantic

2nd: Los Angeles to Tokyo
- All Nippon Airways, Japan Airlines, Korean Air Lines, United Airlines, Singapore Air (also used to have Delta)

Perhaps third then would be New York to Los Angeles or Tokyo to London, though I don't have the data for these routes.

Any I missed?


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Funflyer is on to something
NY Area to Socal.
quite a few carriers.



What now?
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

Um, how exactly can New York to London be classified as most-competitive-routes when it's legislatively limited to only 7 competitors... meaning that most airlines who want to compete on that route cannot?!  Insane


I'd say domestic USA's most competitive routes are probably NYC-Miami and NYC-LAX/SFO

Internationally probably HKG-TPE, LAX-NRT


User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

Um, how exactly can New York to London be classified as most-competitive-routes when it's legislatively limited to only 7 competitors... meaning that most airlines who want to compete on that route cannot?!

London includes Gatwick. All airlines can fly to Gatwick.  Insane


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

New York to Miami is more than jetBlue, American, Song, and Continental. Also Southwest, Southeast, and Spirit.


a.
User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Some facts from Mexico:

Mexico City - Cancun (MEX-CUN)

AeroMexico (MD80's) At least 6 a day.
Mexicana (A320, 319, 757 and F100) At least 7 daily.
Aerocaribe (DC9-31) At least 2 daily flights.
Allegro Air (MD80's and 727-200) 2 daily flights (sometimes up to 4).
Magnicharters (737-200) 2 daily flights.
Aviacsa (737-200 and 727-200) At least 3 daily flights.
Azteca (737-300 and 737-700) 2 daily flights.
Global Air (737-200) 1 daily flight.

8 carriers. Now THAT'S what I call competency.

RM



There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

LAX-NRT also has Varig, Thai Airways and Northwest. Eight airlines on that route, 1 more than New York-London


At Eastern, we earn our wings every day!
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

London includes Gatwick. All airlines can fly to Gatwick

USA carriers sure... however, no 5th freedom carriers exercise rights to the USA from LGW. They are also valuable competition. That, and the only airline who can actually scrape it together on LGW-NYC is CO... VS and BA moved everything to LHR ASAP  Insane


User currently offlineUsairwys757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

I would think JFK to LAX, should be somewhere up there. Also NYC to London.

User currently offlineMfricke From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Although it's not nearly as competitive as the other routes, I have always wondered how Dallas/Ft. Worth - Denver has been able to sustain four carriers for so long: American, United, Frontier and Delta (And at one time five, when Continental still had a Denver hub and the original Frontier was still flying).


ONT - Southern California's Ontario!
User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

How about SF Bay Area to Los Angeles?

This is the only route (zone) where you've got Southwest and JetBlue head to head, not to mention a host of other carriers.


User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Vancouver to Toronto is also a very competitive route up here in Canada. Air Canada dominates the route will many flights operated by 320's, 321's, 767's, 763's, 744's, and 333's. Air Canada Tango, Westjet, Jetsgo, HMY Airlines all fly scheduled daily service, while Skyservice and Air Transat also flew the route.

User currently offlineA330341 From Australia, joined Jul 2003, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Jakarta (CGK)-Singapore (SIN) has quite a busy route too... with flights available from various airlines available almost every 1 hour I think....

Some airlines that provide services on this route are includes:
Emirates
KLM
Thai
Singapore Airlines
Qantas
Philippines
Lufthansa
Garuda
Cathay

and there's a lot more too, not to mention the code share one...  Smile


User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Pretty much any US city to NRT seems pretty competitive... with a variety of US-based and Asian-based airlines offering competitive fares almost all year round. An alternative of course would be NGO.


Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineAloha73g From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2356 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

The Los Angeles Area to Honolulu is very competetive with all the US majors plus a few more on the route, for a total of 8 scheduled plus daily charters by Omni and Skyservice USA:

Airlines, Aiports they serve, and # of daily frequencies:

Aloha: SNA-HNL (1), BUR-HNL (1)
American: LAX-HNL (3)
American Trans Air: LAX-HNL (2)
Continental: LAX-HNL (1)
Delta: LAX-HNL (1)
Hawaiian: LAX-HNL (3), ONT-HNL (1)
Northwest: LAX-HNL (1)
United: LAX-HNL (5)

There are also numerous flights from LA to Maui, Kona and Kauai on various airlines.

ALOHA!!!



Aloha Airlines - The Spirit Moves Us. Gone but NEVER Forgotten. Aloha, A Hui Hou!
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Can Air India actually sell tickets from New York to London?

Air India is actually the LONGEST SERVING INCUMBENT CARRIER in the US to UK market. They have been operating the LHR-JFK route continuously for over 40 years. That is longer than any of the other airlines (AA, BA, CO, DL, NW, VS, etc...).



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2004 times:

Jakarta (CGK)-Singapore (SIN)

Qantas


Qantas doesn't even fly to Jakarta, let alone from Singapore.

You also forgot Air India on the CGK-SIN list.


User currently offlineA330341 From Australia, joined Jul 2003, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Qantas do fly from Jakarta and Singapore every Thursday, Sunday and Tuesday... the flight number is QF77 is a continuation flight from Perth and you can check the timetable at www.qantas.com.au

also Qantas dofly to jkt from syd too...

This flight is also a codeshare flight with BA as BA is no longer fly to Jakarta

They might not fly SIN-CGK though...

[Edited 2003-08-09 08:05:42]

25 B747-437B : I stand corrected ref: Qantas. Also, try SIN-BKK route. Currently served by Finnair, Cathay, Singapore Airlines, Thai, Swiss, Scandinavian, Turkish, I
26 NWA742 : In Texas I'd say AUS-DFW/Love Field. Southwest and AA offer a bunch of flights daily, and the prices are usually about equal. -NWA742
27 Lan_Fanatic : Don't forget the south of the world: Buenos Aires(EZE)-Santiago(SCL) LanChile,Southern Winds,Aerolineas Argentinas,Varig,Avianca,Air France,Lufthansa.
28 Lan_Fanatic : Oooops...I forgot one between EZE and SCL...British Airways also used to fly this route.
29 Lt-AWACS : "In Texas I'd say AUS-DFW/Love Field. Southwest and AA offer a bunch of flights daily, and the prices are usually about equal. -NWA742" For Texas: I'd
30 Tommy767 : I would say NYC area to LA area American: too many flights to count from JFK United: too many flights to count from JFK Delta: Also lots of flights fr
31 Aa757first : Chicago to Los Angeles Area has some traffic Spirit, United, US Airways, American, and ATA Washington, D.C. to New York Delta, American, US Airways, a
32 N79969 : I think this discussion needs some parameters. I think when considering how competitive a route is, I think we need to consider any restrictions on ca
33 Yow : Toronto to London is also very competitive if you count all the charter airlines and summer seasonal flights. There is Air Canada, British Airways, My
34 Carduelis : B747-437B BA started transatlantic flights during WW2, in August 1940. The aircraft were Empire flying boats fitted with extra fuel tanks. Their names
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