747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3789 posts, RR: 2 Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3240 times:
I was wondering if any body ever seen a 747 SP take off on a ultra long flight. I wanted to know do they use as much runway as a 747 200 or 400, do they make a strong rumble like full size 747 on long flight. If any body ever watch a SP on a route like LAX- SYD or DFW-NRT or JFK-NRT please tell me.
ERJ135 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 690 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3190 times:
I've been on a Korean SP and seem many others take off and land.
They take of faster than a full 747 but then they were a lot lighter with the same wing. I'm note sure the engines were de rated for the lower mass but from memory they sounded much the same as a full sized 747 of the times.
I actually had the SP as a sub for what was supposed to be an MD-11 and the SP was old and faded but was still a good experience.
Fly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3145 times:
Strangely, I've only seen 747SPs on short-to-medium haul takeoffs, probably because these days, they have been removed from longhaul service and only serve in odd roles.
Of course, on short hops, their performance is impressive. I'd say the noise is similar to other JT9-powered 747-100/200s. (never saw a RR-powered SP)
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Zebfly2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3001 times:
I can remember seeing Pan Am & TWA SP's t/o from JFK when I was younger. For some reason they seemed to t/o quicker than the -100 & -200 series. I guess it's due to the lighter weight as stated earlier.
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Rydawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 869 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2880 times:
I remember sitting in Terminal 7 at LAX when I was 9-10 (ok that was only 12 years ago) but still I remember United's SPs taking off For SYD...The Aircraft would rate normally, much shorter than other 747's, although it didn't seem to climb as fast as you would expect for such a sort roll...
Thats all I can remember...Ryan
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FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2777 times:
Yep. I've seen Pan Am, then United and Qantas 747SP all at LAX during their take-off rotation. Pretty awesome sight to see then. Just as loud as the standard 747s, but not as a long roll. The rate of climb, as far as I can tell is the same too. I've seen SPs in other carriers' liveries at LAX, but Pan Am, United & Qantas are the three I remembered the most. Regards.
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Tbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2683 times:
I flew PA006 SIN/HKG/SFO in 1983. SIN/HKG was N742PA 747-121 "Neptune's Car." In HKG, the -121 went on to NRT and LAX. SFO pax transferred to N536PA 747SP-21 "Clipper Lindbergh." Take-off roll long heavy out of Kai-Tak. About 12 hours flying time. VERY smooth flight (April). Landing SFO smooth until runway, then bumpy due SFO paving. I do remember there were no air vents above the seats and PA put up a paper wallmap with the provision for an unsked fueling stop in ANC. No need. Terrific aircraft with a smooth climb (fuel burn-off for altitude seemed smoother than a -400), easy cruise, and comfortable descent. Incredible days of flying.
My hometown of Wellington (WLG), New Zealand had daily Qantas 747SP flights during the early '80s because of the short runway and Qantas' old policy of being the world's only exclusively 747 airline. Flights came in from Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane on Australia's Eastern sea-board. And at the time, Air New Zealand had no international flights in or out - and this is our nation's capital - they'd recently retired their DC-8's and were awaiting delivery of the new 767 fleet.
Exhilerating on lift off! The rapid acceleration was similar to that of a two engine craft, rather than the rolling build-up of its larger sibling. The high wing area to body mass made for an effortless launch.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2508 times:
When I flew a UA 747SP from SFO to HKG in 1986, I remember the plane didn't require that much runway to get off the ground; the plane was rotating and left the ground not long after reaching the center point of Runway 28R at SFO.