IslandHopper From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 327 posts, RR: 2 Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5867 times:
More evidence of the sad state of the airline industry: USAirways 737-400 N407US, N408US, and N413US are being ferried to Nimes, France to be broken up for parts. These are 1988 build aircraft, retired in 2002 after only fourteen years of service. This according to the Mojave newsgroup.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5676 times:
Interesting shot of N413US, in a transitional US/Piedmont livery, I believe thats the old USAir red scheme with Piedmont titles in red (not the usual blue).
Quite amazing that 734s are being broken up, but these 734s, likely among the first off the line, are probably worth more in parts than in one piece....storage costs are high, and since the 734 had a smaller customer base that the 733, off to chop-shop they go. Sad.
The 734, even more than the 733, has been overshadowed by the 737NG aircraft....airlines seem to really appreciate the extra seats and extra range of the 738 over the 734 (which was always just a bit short on range), thus finding new operators for 734s is a bit difficult.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3191 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5328 times:
What's really going on with US? They seem to be sending a steady stream of planes to the knackers - is it to keep down their costs by providing themselves a supply of self-generated spare-parts? While the 737 Classics (esp. 400) are shorter on range than NG 737s and Airbus narrow-bodies they still attract used sales - indeed several of Ansett's stored 733s have now found new homes even after one was torn up. Nobody else seems to be breaking up Classic 737s at present.
Sllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5308 times:
All these aircraft, I suspect, are coming up on D checks. With so many aircraft out there, it would be a long time before doing the D check would pay for itself, so the planes are being turned into parts. I expect we'll see a lot of older 737-300/400's go this route in the current market, as well as MD-80's (CO's fleet comes to mind).
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3993 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5188 times:
It is up to the leasing company or the company that purchased the planes from US Airways as to where they go to be broken up. Also, I seriously doubt US Airways has much say in what happens with the planes. The used aircraft market is extremely saturated right now, and there was talk a couple months back that Boeing may actually start buying used aircraft to scrap them to improve new aircraft sales.
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
SRD737NG From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 136 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5021 times:
Hey IslandHopper : You're not the only one that misses Piedmont my friend. What a great company that was!! I remember how happy the employees were there...as a 13 year old, I remember going with my father to Mr. Davis' retirement party (the founder and CEO as you probably know) out at Wake Forest University. Everyone at the company gave what money they desired and surprised him with a new Mercedes as a thank you/retirement gift!! I doubt I'll ever see anything like that happen at an airline ever again. Even though your posted picture of 413US has the "burnt toast" red of USAir's colors, it still brings back good memories of the good old days of the Pacemaker.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7157 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4922 times:
I saw N413US in Kingman last month and the paint was flaking off the to of her. Sad to hear . You would think smaller airlines (Ryan and Casino Express) would want to pick these up to replace the old gas guzzling -200's .
'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2735 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4877 times:
Can anyone find out the current hours/cycles on these airframes, and how close they were to a heavy check?
On the Boeing used aircraft site, they have a 747 there fresh out of a D-check with something like 106,000 hours on it. I cannot imagine why anyone would put an over 100,000 hour airframe thru a D-check, let alone if they were going to try to dispose of it immediately afterwards.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2735 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4786 times:
That is quite suprsing. I wouldn't expect them to be scrapped till at least 60,000 hours. I suppose though the accountants thought this was better than paying $500 a month each to park in California. Hell, I'd let them park it on my lawn for much cheaper!
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2735 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4459 times:
Caught me again. I see N413US was ferried IGM-YYR on Aug. 04. A database search shows 407, 408, 411, 413, 415, and 431 all in storage, but 413 is listed at MHV, not IGM... Guess it really doesn't matter now, as they're on their way to becoming razor blades.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3191 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4383 times:
The irony is, now that I look at my Airliner World 2003 Year Planner, the US 734 shown is indeed 415. It would thus be very ironic if this year is the one in which it dies!
The issue of needing D-checks is plausible but I still think US has a say in the destruction of these planes - if it were the lessors why are no other 737 Classics (3/4/5) being scrapped? (One may omit the 5 since it is relatively new and has been quicker to be resold, especially to East European carriers.)
IslandHopper From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 327 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3943 times:
BTW, this makes a total of six USAirways 737 classics broken up. The other three are being broken up at Greenwood, Mississippi. One -300 (N534AU) and two -400s (N411US, and N412US) are there. All with less than 15 years of service.