AirVB From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 268 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3486 times:
At the far western end of the airport, just south of 24L are three satellite buildings with extra gates. I've passed these by many times; however, I've rarely seen them occupied. Does anyone know when they were constructed, how often they're used, what they're for, and what they're like inside? I would think that area could be used for expansion and a new terminal.
747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3455 times:
They use as a over flow for the Tom Bradley International terminal I believe
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3433 times:
If I remember the layout correctly, each satellite at the west end has 2 jetbridges each...numbered R1 thru R6...the "R" meaning "remote". It's was built as an relief, or overload terminals when the Bradley gates are all taken. Flights using the remote gates are bused over to Bradley for customs processing. It was rumored some years back that underground tunnels were to be built linking it to Bradley. As a sidenote, whenever the President is in Los Angeles, Air Force One & her support aircrafts is almost always having all the remote tarmac to themselves. Regards.
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A330Fan1 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 856 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3354 times:
If there are too many aircrafts parked at the Tom Bradley Intl terminal, these remote gates are used...I have been inside the building when a Thai B747400 I was flying was parked here...the inside is just a building with a set of slanted walkways/stairs that lead to the aircraft. A bus is needed to get to here from Bradley terminal.
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2009 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3310 times:
Actually, the overflow from TBIT and Terminal 2 use the remote gates. It's purely pot luck who gets the gates, although Lan Chile's A340 flights seem to be almost permanent fixtures (the 767 flights don't seem to be affected) as well as World Airways' Air Mobility Command MD-11 flights.
Last week Air China, ANA, JAL, Thai were also boarding there.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3492 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3188 times:
The master plan for LAX shows 4 proposals. The plan that is currently the "favored" one is alternative D, which was added after Sept. 11. All plans added a whole bunch of gates. Alternative D rebuilds terminals 1-3 basically into an extension to the TBIT and adds capacity by adding a satellite terminal and adding gates to the backside of the TBIT.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3072 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3120 times:
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I flew Martinair to AMS from the sattelite stands back in 1996. The bus ride across the tarmac provided excellent viewing opportunities! The downside was that it was a bus ride...
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3041 times:
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7619 posts, RR: 28 Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3025 times:
Alternative D is a weak political concession from the mayor and does nothing to address the fact that there aren't airports in the Socal region with sufficient capacity or attractiveness to the airlines (in ONT's case) to supplant LAX anytime soon - large expansion is needed, and the sooner the better. Alternatives A and C would benefit the Los Angeles region greatly and take great strides to compromise with area NIMBYs - particularly the elevated ring freeway connecting with the 105 and 405 that would remove much-hated LAX surface traffic from surrounding neighborhood streets.
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Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2627 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2989 times:
I've also seen a few HA DC10's parked at the remote stands.
Travelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2969 times:
I completely agree with you Aaron747. Looking at the alternatives, Alternative D would only increase annual passenger capacity by about 1 million people (out of 78 million) versus DOING NOTHING! And I've heard Aleternative D would cost over $10 billion! Completely ridiculous.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7619 posts, RR: 28 Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2959 times:
That's precisely the issue. Spend $10 billion for a bunch of security improvements to an aging airport, or spend $12 billion for brand new infrastructure that will last for decades to come and nearly double the airport's capacity. Alternative D is a not-so-thinly-veiled attempt to cap LAX growth and force another part of Socal to pick up the slack. That would be fine - *if* a suitable facility existed. Guess what? That's not the case.
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AirVB From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 268 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2804 times:
I also agree that Alternative D is terrible! And I read an article that stated that this was the plan that was most likely to be adopted, unfortunately. I don't understand why they would demolish 1, 2, 3 and replace it with a single concourse with fewer gates.
Delta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1130 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2749 times:
We went there one with an LH A-340 evening flight in November 2000 (LH452). We took the bus to the TBIT. Even there were emty gates at TBIT!
But even we arrived at 7pm I cleared customs, good my bags and ran to Terminal Three to catch the (now gone former Reno Air) American Airlines flight to Reno at 8pm ! I made it and even got an upgrade in First Class (Non Rev) !
Picarus From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 298 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
ETA Unknown-
Why would Air New Zealand be forced to dock at the remote terminals. It's my understanding that those are for TBIT tenants only. AN uses T2. Can someone please explain???
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2009 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2576 times:
As stated before, the remote gates are used by TBIT and Terminal 2 carriers- Air China has used them twice this week and NZ probably gets stuck with them for their daylight KL / NZAA), New Zealand">AKL flights- the one time I used the remote stands was on a NZ 744 LAX-NAN-KL / NZAA), New Zealand">AKL flight.
When the remote gates are is use, Terminal 2 is being used by NW D10 to HNL, NW742 to NRT, NZ 744 to LHR, KL 744 from AMS- other gates are for narrowbodies. With Terminal 2 carriers, Air China and NZ daylight flights are not daily services, so that may have something to do with the allocation. As for Lan Chile constantly being out there, perhaps it's something as simple as they were too late in submitting their flight schedule paperwork to LAX planning dept.- I once worked for a carrier where we got the worst gate because of our tardiness.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6201 posts, RR: 43 Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2529 times:
But when were they built was one of the questions. I have vague recollections of them in place long begore TBIT was built. Am I so addled in old age that I remember what wasn't?
What is it with all the "is there a possibilty airline X will.." threads? The answer it'll is possible.
Cch362 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 147 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2526 times:
I left LAX on a 23.30 BR flight to Taipei back in March, and had to use the satellite gate. The bus took us from Gate 101 (I think) in TBIT to the remotes. It was a rather long ride - more than five minutes. The bus dropped us off at the base of the satellite gate, which is a rectangular block about the height of a three-story building. Inside is an elevator and a series of wheelchair accessible ramps leading up to the level of the aircraft door. There are no chairs, as it is not intended for passengers to wait there.
At the top of the ramps, the scene looks like a "normal" gate. Staff are on hand by the jetway to double-check boarding passes, and in my case, force me to gate-check my hand luggage because it weighed more than 7kg.
AirVB From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 268 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
ETA Unknown-so I take it you work at LAX?
I also have a question-I seem to recall there being a long satellite term with 5 or so gates that looked newer than 3 brown satellite buildings to the west of it. Do you know when each was built and where the aircraft you have been mentioning actually park?
Thanks,
AirVB
25 Tcttx: Does the Imperial Terminal still exist? I recall that mainly charters used it.
26 ETA Unknown: Don't actually work at LAX, but very close to it. Not sure about the specifics of the satellite gates- sorry. However, tomorrow I'm on Air China to Be
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