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NW Flights Divert 8/15 Through......  
User currently offlineDtwintlflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 301 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3129 times:

Good time for spotters in IAD MSP and BOS All international are on schedule for today except most will stop somewhere prior to going on to final destination.

69 will go DTW MSP KIX
71 will go DTW MSP NGO
85 will go DTW MSP NRT
11 will go DTW MSP NRT
68 will go DTW BOS AMS DC 10
40 will go DTW IAD AMS DC 10
54 will go DTW IAD AMS 747-200
50 will go DTW MEM CDG DC 10 (certainly the first MEM CDG flight ever!)

all others are on schedule 64/58/17/19/1/27/38/42/56/34/7/KLM flights

[Edited 2003-08-15 17:33:31]

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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

What's the reason behind the outbound stops? I can see the I/B's stopping for customs(?)


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User currently offlineFavre From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 595 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

They are stopping for catering----------


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User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

Thats a good guess. I would believe it.

User currently offlineDtwintlflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

Either that or for pax whom would have connected into DTW going on to overseas. I am not sure. It is a MADHOUSE trying to even get to the airport in DTW. The traffic is backed up onto the highways. But it very well may be due to catering as we are just now getting power to certain areas near the airport/

User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

According to www.nwa.com, the four B744s inbound to MSP (from DTW) are all scheduled to go to the Humphrey terminal for anywhere from 20-60 minutes on the ground. I'll be quite the sight to see the NWA B744s at the small HHH terminal!

pilottim747



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Thanks for the post, really interesting. I assume that due to the huge blackout, NW's flight kitchens are not yet fully operational and/or they had to be totally restocked due to spoilage. An interesting side-bar to a complex story.

User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

NWA flight 9949 from AMS is also being diverted to MSP from DTW. This is one of the NWA A330 test flight for employees. Will be arriving at around 5:20pm!

pilottim747



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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

is fueling normal in DTW? what % of domestic flights are operating in DTW and CLE?

User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Here's an update on the NWA diversions in MSP:

Flt. 9949 to DTW
Arrived in MSP 5:09pm
Arrived at the gate 5:29pm
Departed the gate --
Departed MSP --
Aircraft: A333
Gate: G4 (Main Terminal)

Flt. 9948 to AMS
Arrived in MSP --
Arrived at the gate --
Departed the gate Unknown
Departed MSP 8:58pm
Aircraft: A333
Gate: G4

Flt. 11 to NRT
Arrived in MSP 5:35pm
Arrived at the gate 5:37pm
Departed the gate 6:59pm
Departed MSP 7:36pm
Aircraft: B744
Gate: H8 (HHH Terminal)

Flt. 71 to NGO
Arrived in MSP 5:47pm
Arrived at the gate 5:54pm
Departed the gate 7:07pm
Departed MSP 7:45pm
Aircraft: B744
Gate: H6 (HHH Terminal)

Flt. 85 to NRT
Arrived in MSP 6:12pm
Arrived at the gate 6:22pm
Departed the gate 7:49pm
Departed MSP 8:23pm
Aircraft: B744
Gate: H4 (HHH Terminal)

Flt. 69 to KIX
Arrived in MSP 6:23pm
Arrived at the gate 7:11pm
Departed the gate 8:27pm
Departed MSP 8:45pm
Aircraft: B744
Gate: H8 (HHH Terminal)

Very cool to see the four B744s and the A333 at MSP. Looks like the A333 just departed from MSP to go back to AMS just avoiding DTW altogether. The B744s got catered and fueled at the Humphrey Terminal. It looked like they were waiting on something else after the catering and fueling were done but I couldn't see anything. Anyone know what else these aircraft would need? They actually extended the jetways at the terminal although pax didn't get off (for obvious reasons).

pilottim747

[Edited 2003-08-16 05:23:52]


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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

What would be the sense of diverting a DTW-CDG flight to MEM, that is way out of the way, why not BOS or IAD?

User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

prolly because MEM is a NWA hub and they want to be able to get passengers on other NWA flights quickly??

Just a guess. is it reasonable??

Alex.



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User currently offlineHammer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 688 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

NWA #9949 did not have any passengers (employees) on it due to the power outage here in DTW---it flew out with crew only last night---

User currently offlineBlueskies From Finland, joined Jul 2001, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

One reason for the odd routings may also be that NWA did not have enough crews available without exceeding their maximum allowed work hours.

Greetings,
Blueskies


User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

Did NWA switch crews on their long-haul Japan flights when they went through MSP? It must be an operations nightmare trying to get aircraft and crew to meet in the right spot and the right time.

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User currently offlineDtwintlflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

Considering all the chaos, FA's might have been hard to find to "legally" do a Pacific trip. A three day Pacific is worth 24+ hours, 5 day is 31, 6 day 36 etc.... It is very easy to find Deadhead work(DW) crew members returning to MSP or even DTW FA to do a DTW MSP DTW(DW) flight. A DTW MSP DTW one day will burn up less than 6 hours for a FA for the month. Wouldn't be surprised as NW has furloughed too many of our FA's and when the crap hits the fan like this or weather etc...the company is left to mix and match anyone they can get from other bases to cover trips.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Saturday:
unaffected: 32, 48, 50, 54, 69, 71, 85

11 DTW-ANC-NRT B744
40 DTW-BOS-AMS - DC10
68 DTW-BOS-AMS - B744
52 DTW-IAD-FRA - DC10


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