Mike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3 Posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4360 times:
I love the fact that AA flies the A-300, but it is a rather odd type of plane for the fleet. Are there plans in the works to discontinue A-300 service? It doesn't seem as if that type fits into AA's future fleet plans.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 81
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4342 times:
It fits in great.
Its a large fleet, 34 planes, so its not too hard to maintain economically. It carries huge numbers of passengers and a very, very large cargo payload, so its great for their extensive Caribbean and South American network.
The only thing that could really match the A300-600R on both fronts is the 777, and I don't see AA picking up 772As to replace a relatively young fleet of A300s.
Of course, they could get A330s, but I don't see that happening either.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16374 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4310 times:
Given the longevity of the 722 and D10 in the AA fleet, the A300 is still barely into middle age by AA standards. With the only reasonable replacement being the 7E7, it's likely that AA will continue to operate the A300 for 10-15 more years.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
B777FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4168 times:
Maybe scary because of 587?
I could understand that (having lost 9 JFK co-workers on the flt and being at the airport the day of the crash) but the aircraft is perfectly safe,I have to admit I kept off of it for almost 1 1/2 years but now I'm back on and love it.
The A300 is perfect for the high density routes of SDQ/SJU/PAP and the overhead bin size is awesome .It would be a shame to get rid of them.Im not sure if AA has any plans to replace them but I know sometimes the A300 has been switched on the JFK-SDQ route with a 777. I think maybe due to mechanicals or extra flights being put on for the Holidays.
Tbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4055 times:
I've flown the A-300 once. While a good airplane, it is the aircraft that is truly an "Airbus." I can see a WN-type configuration throughout the aircraft used on some high-density routes that are under 3h-3:30h. Over that, you should have some sort of "an inflight service." With the A-300, "head 'em up, move 'em out!" Different aircraft for route-specific services would be a great future for the -300's. Short-Medium haul with minimal cabin services. Get those coach ovens out and add a row or two. Could be a moneymaker if used and marketed properly. At least, we can hope for the best..."Get that grey dog off the fuselage!!"
AA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3858 times:
The A300 is staying, in fact they are in the process of putting the newer interiors inside them.. Doubt that expense would be made just to get rid of them. The A300 was taken off the LHR routes for a couple of reasons. One was the fact that at certain times of the year, fuel became an issue, meaning it would come pretty close to have to divert. The other is that all the LHR services were being switched to B777's to keep everything the same. It also gave LHR a lot more flexibility is switching aircraft around in LHR should they need an aircraft for some reason..
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4884 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3737 times:
Well PIA desperately needs a few A 300s to replace their 9 AB4s out of which 7 are grounded due to age.
They have already approached a few airlines for used AB6s to complement their A 310s.
Also Qatar Airways is looking for a few AB6 freighters so thats another option.
AA can generate quite a bit of much needed $$$ revenue if it sells 4-8 of its AB6s.
Im sure that there are lots of cargo airlines that would seriously consider purchasing second hand AB6s from AA as this aircraft has proven to be a very popular freighter aircraft for FED EX, UPS, AIR HONGKONG, TNT (AB4) etc etc
MD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3475 times:
From what I've heard, there are no current plans to replace them. I've flown on AA's A300s a lot, it's the widebody jet I've flown the most in, and they are fine aircraft and are very popular due to their pax and cargo capacity. They seem to have an ideal combination of range and capacity for the routes to the Caribbean and northern South America.
Tan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3108 times:
The original A-300 order was placed concurrently with a B-763 order in the late 80's when AA successfully negotiated a 30 day cancellation clause in the leases.
If my memory serves correct, that clause was good for teh first 10 years of the lease from Airbus, and I think it applied to at least a few of the 763's ordered at that time also.
My guess would be that by now the 10 yr time frame has passed on all planes covered by it and they are on for tehremainder of the lease. It also seems that those leases were for 20-25 years total, so as mentioned in someone elses remarks the aircraft are only 10-13 years into the lease..may years left to go.
As has been mentioned in several threads covering this topic, the A-300's for AA are very mission speciifc...feed MIA from select (mostly now east coast) cites, and serve the Caribbean basin destination as well as northern Latin American and Central American cities.
They carry tremendous amounts of cargo, and that is a money maker!!!
I had a cargo forwarder tell me one time that on some of those flights, the cargo revenue is close to covering the costs of the flight, and PAX revenue is then gravy.
As a matter if fact, I wish AA would put at least one 767 flight back in the schedule from SEA to MIA so I can use AA for my shipments to SJU from SEA.
All in all, the A-300's will remain an important and profitable component of the fleet for a long time to come.