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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6384 times:

I'm listening to my scanner tonight and I just heard a female pilot on Alaska Airlines. I've heard her several times before, usually in the evenings. A female voice on the scanner catches my attention immediately.

A female pilot recently retired from my client. She's the first one I've seen come through.

I met a really neat girl in Atlanta. I was in the lounge of a hotel and she was visiting her mom who worked there. I overheard her talking to her mom about her pilot's courses and her log book so of course I had to go over and talk to her. We ended up chatting for like an hour and I thoroughly enjoyed it. She said to me that she's never met another girl who likes aviation as much as she does. She had been a flight attendant and was encouraged to become a pilot by the pilots on her flights!

Do any of you have interesting stories about female pilots? Why aren't there more women pilots? Do women face discrimination in the cockpit?




But that was when I ruled the world
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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6320 times:

Do any of you have interesting stories about female pilots? Why aren't there more women pilots? Do women face discrimination in the cockpit?

Well, as long as women don't fly like they drive, there should be no problem...ok, bad joke.  Big grin

Seriously, there are some idiot pax who would have hangups about a woman in the cockpit. This doesn't mean that companies necessarily discriminate against women...though some stereotypes probably exist among the male pilot circles.

Another factor probably is social. Women aren't seen as, and typically don't see themselves as pilots. Before someone flames me, it has something to do with the reason boys play with trucks and girls play with Barbies. It's society.

I personally would love to see more female pilots!

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineRaven111 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 106 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6296 times:

I think female pilots are very sexy.


"The secret to my success is that I always managed to live to fly another day." Chuck Yeager
User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

I agree with your statement about how women don't usually see themselves as pilots. The girl in Atlanta told me that when she saw kids with their parents when she was a FA, the parents would say to their sons "there's the pilot, you can be a pilot too!" but they wouldn't say that to their daughters. They'd usually say the girls could be FAs.

As a girl in a male-dominated field, I can relate to that one.



But that was when I ruled the world
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6265 times:
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I think female pilots are very sexy.

Dude, you couldn't get leid in a hawaiian flower shop with lines like that...


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6257 times:

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please delete this

[Edited 2003-08-19 08:15:18]

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6247 times:

I don't care if a man or a woman is in the cockpit. As long as they get me their safely. I was on one flight, a United Air Lines 737 ORD to ABE where a woman was a co-pilot. I don't think I have ever been on a flight with a woman as a captain.

User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6248 times:

My flight instructor is a female, who got into aviation because of her brothers. She is one of the top 3 pilots I have flown with as well.


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User currently offlineWMUPilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

I've actually had an elderly woman refuse to board the aircraft because there was an all woman flight crew. This really suprized me. I told her that she was in good hands with this crew as i knew both pilots and their skills were top notch. Still she refused and said she'd wait until there were only me upfront.

I think most of this stems from the golden age of flying right after WWII when all the Army/Navy aviators came back and started to fly commercially. For quite some time the men pilots were seen as near godly. Everybody would take notice of a pilot. The guys were seen as tough and powerful and they wouldn't allow anything to happen as they had the strength to correct it.

At C8 we actually have a number of female captains and first officers. I really enjoy the flight with them. Some are better then their male counter parts. I am currently attending WMU flight school and we have 3 possibly 4 females in the program. I wish there were more as it is a fun profession with free travel and such. I see times changing slowly but surely for the better.



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User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6145 times:

I've flown with female pilots before- both flight instructors and airline pilots. It doesn't bother me at all. The airlines here in Australia have a fairly large amount of female pilots- Ansett used to have a fair few, including a couple of female 737 captains. QANTAS has a fair amount, and a lot of the regionals like Eastern, O'Connors, REX etc. have female pilots. Sometimes when i listen to my scanner it turns out that there is a female air traffic controller and a female pilot both talking to each other, the female ATC's tend to be nicer when they talk to pilots of the same gender.

User currently offlinePakistania From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6121 times:

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) have four female pilots, all on jets, one is on a 747 and will become captain soon, Pakistan govt. also funded the flying lessons of a village girl who wnated tobecome a pilot, the men frm her village did'nt want her to get educated and would even set dogs after her when she would be going to school, seeing her determination the govt. helped her after she graduated from high school. The Yemeni flag carrier Yemenia also recently hired their first female pilot, Both are Muslim countries.

[Edited 2003-08-19 09:38:24]

User currently offlineYakfixer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5996 times:

Horizon Air had one of the first (maybe the first?) all female crews in the mid 90's (96 or 97?) on a Dash8. Captain, F/O, and F/A.

User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1872 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5968 times:

Yakfixer, it is not the race, but I think Flying Tigers or Fedex did it in the early 80s.

There are several reasons for seing not too many woman in the cockpit. However, there are more and more every day. And up to the Condorde.

Teva



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User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 634 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5918 times:

I have seen a F/O on Cathay Pacific 747-400 this June


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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5840 times:

It seems like there are more transgender (females that were born as males) pilots within the USA than female pilots.

User currently offlineEmiratesA345 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 2123 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5810 times:

LOL Thanks for that Pate!

I think we're talking about naturally female flight crews.

My flight instructor is a female, and she is one of the best that their is. It is funny though, because on one of my first lessons I forgot everything she told me to do and I looked over at her nervously and asked for help.

Horrified, I watched as she was filing her nails, while she guided me through the next steps. I thought "what the hell are you doing, pay attention!"

Its funny now, but I didn't think so at the time.


As for flying commercially with female flight crews, I've never done it. I just never had the chance. I'd love to speak with a female commercial pilot. I don't know why, but I think it'd just be cool.


EmiratesA345  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineM717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 5754 times:

ScarletHarlot,

One of the finest pilots I know is female. She had wanted to be an airline pilot since she was 5 years old, and attended an aeronautical college where she received two degrees, along with her A & P certificates. She continued to work on her pilot certificates and ratings while in college. Also, while in college, she applied for and received an internship with the NTSB which eventually led to a full time position as an investigator.

Not only is she an excellent pilot, but as this brief background summary shows, she is totally committed to aviation. On top of it all, she is one of the finest people I have ever met and is truly the best friend I have ever had. Even married her.. Big thumbs up

In my 25 year airline career, I have known and flown with many female pilots (BTW, NONE of them were "transgender" regardless of what Industrial Pete would have you believe), and all were fine pilots who understood and accepted being female in a male dominated world.

As far as discrimination in the cockpit, you always run across some A-hole who thinks that women don't belong, or that they got shortcuts by being hired with less qualifications, etc. Like anything else, you just ignore the bitter types, and do your job.


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 5733 times:

BTW, NONE of them were "transgender" regardless of what Industrial Pete would have you believe...

Sorry, M717, I know for a fact that they do exist...


User currently offlineShenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1710 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 5728 times:

For the first time, an all-female crew flew a KC-135 Stratotanker air refueling mission over Afghanistan. The mission was Jan. 31. Pictured clockwise from lower left are 1st Lt. Alison, Capts. Heather and Waynetta, and Senior Airman Lyndi, all from the 376th Expeditionary Air Refueling Squadron. Their last names were witheld for security.

Picture @

http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2003/march/i_bitn.html

 Smile


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 5685 times:

plug time Big grin

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cute f/o indeed, heheheh.
Will



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User currently offlineM717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5643 times:

Pete,

I never said they didn't exist. I said I have known and flown with many female pilots and NONE of them were. That kind of kills your theory that "there are MORE "transgender' pilots in the USA than female pilots".

Your claim about MORE "transgender" pilots than female is BS, and I called you on it. Simple as that. Just because you "know they exist" doesn't change the fact that your claim is total BS. Having been in this industry for longer than you have been alive gives me a fairly accurate perspective on female pilots.


User currently offlineAndersjt From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5542 times:

Frontier had the first woman placed as a captain with a major airline. Back in 1983, I worked a trip where both the captain and first officer were female, and the 3 flight attendants were male.


Oh how I long for the day when the skies were truly Friendly!
User currently offlineGamps From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 469 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5533 times:

All women crew flights are becoming routine in India. Indian Airlines has more than 30 women pilots, six of them commanders and they proudly announce "You are being served by an all women crew"

I believe Jet Airways also has few women pilots. One of them was in news for landing the 737 on a taxi track in Goa on a flight from Bombay in Sept 2002. Passengers did not even realize that they landed on taxi track instead of the runway  Smile . The reason given was pilot was "dazzled" by the sun light and missed the runway. Could have happenned to any pilot I guess.

Cheers


User currently offlineACEregular From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5448 times:

Last week at Puerto Plata our BHX flight landed - MYT085 B763 and when the crew came off, one of the pilots whas a lady, one of the first I have actually seen. Howver when I used to fly GO to STN we had a lady pilot too - sounds odd when theyy make an annoucement as you always expect the femal voice to be an FA.

User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3616 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5416 times:

UA had female pilot since the 70's. People Express was the first airline to have a female 747 captain in the early 80's. I remember a UA female first officer on 747 200 going from LAX to HNL. She was very friendly she wave to me from the cockpit. I hope she still working.

25 William : The aircraft doesn't care if the person behind the controls are of X or Y chromozones.
26 Kaitak : This thread comes up every few months and apart from being pretty tired by now, the only positive thing that can be said is that every time it comes u
27 Post contains images STT757 : I just got back from San Diego last night, the first Officer on my CO 737-800 flight to Newark was a Woman. I've flown on flights with Female pilots b
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