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User currently offlineRw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

Which airport will get the most A380 movements in, say, 5-7 years time ?

I think it will be JFK.

rw774477

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User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3050 times:

I would be more inclined to think SIN, BKK, HKG, FRA, CDG, LHR, DXB in terms of aircraft movements.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineHkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Probably JFK, LAX, SFO, LHR, SIN & HKG?

Hkg82.


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2931 times:

No discussion possible: DXB
Why? Because EK will be the largest A380 operator in the world
Teva



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User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

No discussion possible: DXB
Why? Because EK will be the largest A380 operator in the world


Even if EK has the largest order for A380s, lets not forget SIN whose national carrier SQ also has some A380s in the pipeline besides being one of the main target markets for this type of aircraft for carriers from Europe (AF/LH), Australia (QF). DXB on the other hand is likely to have fewer A380s from other airlines coming in there compared to SIN.

LHR is another market where we may see significant movements by A380 aircraft in myriad liveries besides being VS' hub (as yet another A380 customer).

Strictly my views!!

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7403 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

I think Vimanav is right... I don't think DXB will see many others A380 than EK's ones...while LHR, JFK, SIN, SYD or LAX should be definately important A380 destinations.

User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

But EVERY A380 of EK should pass through DXB every day or every other day, right? And since they're ordering 45 of them (is that right?), that would be at least 30-35 A380 in DXB every day. Don't see how any other airport would come close.

JFK? Well, what am I missing? One daily from AF, EK if they get going, who else, though? SQ? I'm not seeing how JFK or even LAX will see more than 6 or 7 a day. IMHO.



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5981 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

I suppose QF would use a A380 on the LAX-JFK run. Add one daily from AF, VS, EK, perhaps SQ via FRA, or perhaps LHR if they ever get those rights.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

In the US, four airpots...SFO, MIA, LAX, and JFK, will see them a-plenty, ORD and MEM will get thier fair share too. However, none will see more than SIN and DXB.


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User currently offlineHkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

"Even if EK has the largest order for A380s, lets not forget SIN whose national carrier SQ also has some A380s in the pipeline besides being one of the main target markets for this type of aircraft for carriers from Europe (AF/LH), Australia (QF). DXB on the other hand is likely to have fewer A380s from other airlines coming in there compared to SIN."

Agreed. SIN should see the most A380 movements in Asia, followed by NRT & HKG. At the moment I don't foresee any foreign airlines operating the A380 to DXB. Perhaps BA if they ordered the A380?

NRT should be on the list of major A380 airports as NRT is heavily slot restricted.

Hkg82.


User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3139 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Once the Japanese buy in, it will be Tokyo-Haneda, the domestic airport.

Other big movers will be:

Asia/Pacific - NRT, HKG, SIN, BKK, SYD
Europe - LHR, FRA, CDG
Nth. America - LAX, JFK



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User currently offlineGsoflyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1093 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

There was another article in the paper here talking about FedEx's plans to base it's A380s at GSO.

So who knows, maybe we'd even be up there for NA movements.


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7403 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

JeanLeloup, DXB will certainly one of the first, and maybe the first, in terms of MOVEMENT of A380, as it 's EK homebase, but as I mentionned before, DXB will not see many others A380 from other airlines... The topic is about A380 destinations and JFK, LHR, LAX, SIN, SYD are more likely to be the "preferred" destinations of Airlines with A380, rather than DXB.

User currently offlinePhxinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2387 times:

"Once the Japanese buy in, it will be Tokyo-Haneda, the domestic airport."

Unlikely. Airbus has had relatively little success in Japan. Not to mention, JAL and ANA are rumored to be the launch customers for Boeing's Dreamliner. I think in general the Japanese share Boeing's position that a fuel-efficient plane in the 200-300 seat range makes more sense than a 550+ seat plane.




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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2379 times:

I know the market probably won't support it immediately, but does anyone know if DFW's new International Terminal D will be equipped to handle the A380?


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User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1768 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2347 times:

AF will be flying CDG-YUL once the A380 comes out. Probably 1 daily.

User currently onlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7993 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

SFO is definitely a destination for the A380-800.  Smile

I see SQ flying it on the SIN-HKG-SFO route, VS flying it on the LHR-SFO route, LH flying it on the FRA-SFO route and possibly AF flying it on the CDG-SFO route during the summer peak season. Given that SFO's new International Terminal is ready for the A388 (with possible easy upgrades to dual-level jetwalks at the 80 x 80 meter gates on Concourses A and G), SFO could end up attracting quite a lot of A388 traffic.

Surprisingly, LAX may not get A388 traffic initially; the Tom Bradley International Terminal needs to be completely rebuilt to accommodate the A388, and the runways and taxiways will have to be widened and strengthened, too. It's possible that QF's flights to the USA from SYD will have to use SFO initially until the LAX facilities are upgraded.


User currently offlineMidway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

GSO flyer, do you have any links or ways to find that article, that would be a sight to see A380's in GSO.


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User currently offlineShenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1710 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

LAX is in an interesting position. The cost of upgrading the airport without an airline based there that will be operating the A380. What will be the driving force to make them upgrade (billion or more dollars?).

Will SFO steal away enough traffic to force an upgrade in the near future?


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5372 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

I have read that the upgrade costs for LAX aren't all that huge - under $50 million. The US airlines who pay most of the bills, however, are not A380 customers and aren't eager to pay the bulk of the costs to benefit a couple flights a day.

LA will undoubtedly get around to completing the upgrade; but the A380 operators may see some special fees to help pay for it.



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User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

Well apart from the hub cities of all the airlines that have ordered the A380
eg SYD,DXB,SIN,KUL LHR,SEL,CDG

it is common knowledge these these destination will also be serviced by the A380 INTIALLY
LAX , JFK, HKG, TYO, SFO, BKK, FRA,

Later on expect see them at AMS, JNB, ORD among many other cities that are now serviced by the 747.


User currently onlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7993 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

MasseyBrown,

The problem with LAX trying to accommodate the A380-800 are:

1) The Tom Bradley International is woefully inadequate to handle the plane. It's already inadequate the handle the numerous 747's that fly in and out of that airport! They really need to completely rebuild that terminal from the ground up so only only can it accommodate the A388 with its 80 x 80 meter parking ramp space and possible dual-level jetwalk access, but get enough parking gates to accommodate the 747's that fly in and out of that airport. That is unless LAX reconfigures its remote parking gates so they use mobile lounges like what you see at IAD.

2) They would have to widen the runways/taxiways and strengthen the Sepulveda Boulevard underpass to accommodate the size and the weight of the A388.

Total upgrade cost: US$1.1 billion. No wonder why LAX authorities are worried that some A388 traffic could end up at SFO instead (SFO is just about ready to accommodate the A388, with only taxiway improvements necessary).


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