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LH Leasing Of Sabena Aircraft  
User currently offlineBirka340 From Denmark, joined Aug 2003, 166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

Can anyone explain the LH fleet...?
Lufthansa operatates 330s from old Sabena fleet, LH also operates B767 from Lauda (I think)?

Why these extra aircrafts?

Due increasing demand?
The B744 & A340 are too big for LH routes?
Which routes for A330 resp. B767?
For how long will they use them?
They still have the Sabena seats and interiors and the B767s have the new Star Alliance livery.

Any with more information?


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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5297 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

LH leased 2 ex SN A330-200s, 2 ex SN A340-300s and 3 ex Swissair A330-200s as a temporary replacement for the 6 A340-200s, which are being phased out (going to South African). They will leave the fleet once LH takes delivery of the A330-300s, 10 of which have been ordered.

Don't know about the 767s. LH is opening quite a few new long-haul flights these days, I believe, esp. from MUC.

User currently offlineMD-87ER From Austria, joined Aug 2001, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Two 767-300ER from Lauda-Air, in Star-Alliance-Colors. (one black, one white tail)

Complicated deal, I believe the crews are from Condor as they have also 767 in their fleet.

User currently offlineSetjet From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Mar 2002, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Even more interesting to find out if it is cheaper to lease additional aircraft and leave some 747-200 parked in the dessert.

Also: Are there any more LH long-haul aircraft stored or are all back in service (except the classic 747)?

User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

LH operates the 767 on the FRA-PHX routes currently, MUC does not see any other service than A340-300 (only MUC-BOS will temporarily switch to A332 Sep-Oct).

As far as I am informed, all long-haul aircraft are in service except the two SN-A340-300.

The A330-200 will stay until 2005 I am told. LH seems very satisfied with that aircraft, so we might see some order in the future.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

As far as I am informed, all long-haul aircraft are in service except the two SN-A340-300.

I saw them actif on July 5 + 6 in FRA.

Are they std in the meantime?

The only stored long haul plane I saw at FRA was an A332 (D-AIME I believe, have to look it up in my logs). It was stored in the corner where the cargo's come, and were the SA A346 + QF B744 are parked (I saw it when I took the bus to the QF B744 + SA A346 to get their registration).


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6537 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

LH's 767 are operated by Condor pilots - I believe it's because their contracts allow for a longer flying time?

User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

yep, CPH-R is right. since the leased Airbusses cannot be equipped with LH´s moveable crew rest containers, the 763 has to fly PHX.


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