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YUL To Be Renamed  
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Just heard the news on Radio-Canada. And guess which name it will get?

Pierre-Elliot Trudeau!

The man who expropriated thousands of people in Mirabel to build YMX, then refused to transfer all flights to YMX as it was supposed to be, creating a total mess in Montreal's airports, killing all chances for Montreal to become the hub it should be.

I can't believe it...


Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
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User currently offlineRattibone From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

How ironic!

The former PM's vision of Montreal being the hub of Canada in return failed miserably and now he's getting an airport named after him? That's a good one.

So with Diefenbaker Airport in Saskatoon, Toronto Pearson International, we will now have Trudeau International? Doesn't quite flow does it? Hehe..


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

I think it's very appropriate. The city that benefited from the largest make-work airport project in the 1970's (YMX) SHOULD have its current airport named after the politician that directed the funding.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineLubicon From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Don't forget about Ottawa McDonald-Cartier International. I kinda wish YEG and YYC would do the same. As for YUL naming their airport after the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history, I don't know.

User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

As for YUL naming their airport after the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history, I don't know.

Lubicon,

Haven't you heard of Brian Mulroney? Yes the Trudeau years were a mess, but if it wasn't for Mulroney, AC wouldn't have all those Airbuses....



The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Yyz717,

I think it's very appropriate.

I fully understand your POV. If I was from Toronto, I'd think exactly like you, as no other city in Canada has benefited more from the mess PET created in Montreal.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

It makes sense, I suppose. I mean, they can't name a mountain after the man.... that idea has been nixed already  Big grin

As for YEG and YYC - or YVR for that matter - naming their airports after noteable people.... well, I don't know if they could really think of a local figure that would be that famous abroad. And you don't want YYC and YEG fighting over which city gets to name their airport "Lougheed International".... besides, YYC's "other" name is already McCall Field.... named for a famous early local aviator.



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

It's perspective really. From experience, you either love Trudeau or hate him. I think he was a great PM and welcome the name change.

User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Perhaps the airport will be known as PET, like JFK.

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User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4952 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

Pretty much the canadian govt is trying to rub it in the faces of Quebeckers, most of whom are taught at a young age to hate this individual.

The government of Canada really did not act in the best interest of a united Canada today. They could have named a lot of other things PET, Dorval is one of them that should have stayed.

Mark


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

The government of Canada really did not act in the best interest of a united Canada today.

I disagree. PET was the PM of Quebec first, Canada second. He is reviled in English Canada....indeed, English Canada ALWAYS voted PC as a majority when PET was running.

I think he was a great PM and welcome the name change.

Of course you do Jordan. You're a Quebecer and PET looked after Quebec first.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

Who's Jordan? Plus why do you seem to have this new hobby of telling me what and why I think?

User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4952 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Neil.

You are the last person to say what is in Quebec's best interest. Your the typical Anglo-Canadian who cant relate to the cultural differences that is Quebec. Instead you;d rather slam us... its ok ive heard it before.

PET looked after Canada as a whole, and I have tremendous respect for that. But Quebec is so fragile, it justs takes a thing like this to get the separatist mad again. Cant the CDN govt just let it go... they can name a monument downtown Montreal after him or something. For the sake of unity in the press and society in Quebec

Mark


User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

I don't think it will cause much of a problem. Separatism is dying, its been bleeding to death for years. Besides, they've been forcing name-changes themselves over the last few decades. Rene-Levesque Blvd (Formerly Dorchester) downtown for instance, yep there's name change that reflected unity in Canada for sure...

$5 says Lesage gets renamed Parizeau Intl soon to balance things out.....when they lose services they can at least blame it on ethnics and money  Big grin


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

*shrug*

If you think PET is reviled by Anglo-Canadians, you're wrong; many in Ontario and a few out west still think he was a great PM. It's in the west, and particularily Alberta, that the man was held in low regard. Despite that, even some of the most vehement anti-Trudeau westerners did pay him a lot of respect and did mourn his passing.



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Justin then. I knew it was a 6-lettered J name.

it justs takes a thing like this to get the separatist mad again.

So what if they get mad? Do you think placating them is the right approach?

Cant the CDN govt just let it go.

I agree with you in a way.....naming airports after PM's is nonsensical. PET had nothing to do with aviation, nor did Pearson. Indeed, it was PET who named YYZ after Pearson.








Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

For those who didn't know, PET in French means fart...

I can see all the plays of word from here.

- Hey, weird smell. Must be that jet fuel.
- No, it's because your at the PET airport.

PET was the PM of Quebec first, Canada second.
I'm gonna puke  Nuts ...



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

If you think PET is reviled by Anglo-Canadians, you're wrong;

Make no mistake, PET is reviled in English Canada. But it's all relative....Mulroney is hated even more. PET never once achieved a plurality of seats in English Canada in the 4 or 5 elections in which he led the Liberals.

Anyway, naming YUL as PET is not such a bad thing. PET was from Montreal after all.

YMX arguably did not hurt the YUL area air traffic much...it's possible that YUL might be handling no more traffic today had YMX never opened in the first place. Long before YMX opened, YUL had fallen well behind all other Eastern gateways to North America. Everyone knew that YMX was nothing more than a massive make-work project for Quebec that went on to fail.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineQb001 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2053 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Yyz717,

Stop. You're only displaying, once again, your total ignorance about Quebec.

Take it as friendly advice.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2438 times:

Stop. You're only displaying, once again, your total ignorance about Quebec.

Stop? Because you disagree with me? Ummm....no.

It's quite possible I understand Quebec better than you. Many in English Canada do....





Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4952 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2422 times:

"It's quite possible I understand Quebec better than you. Many in English Canada do...."

-And how do you figure this?



User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1735 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2399 times:

Ah crap........this just sickens me.....my hometown airport being renamed after the worst Canadian PM in history! Angry

User currently offlineLubicon From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 2344 times:

YEG could easily be named after Max Ward or Wop May although Yellowknife may be a better choice for Max Ward.

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 2338 times:

Max might have something to say about that; he's not dead yet  Big grin


"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineSkywatcher From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 453 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 2331 times:

Don't they have more important things to do than re-naming the airport at all.
Imagine the inconvenience and cost of changing all the suddenly wrong documentation/business cards/street signs etc.

Not only does the Federal government choke the whole airline industry with obscene taxes (of which AC is the conduit for the lions share) but they have nothing better to do than waste time and money on this.

This assinine behavoir is so frustrating.


25 FLYYUL : WEll what else is Collenette gonna do, but rant and rave over some high-speed train between Montreal and Toronto. Mark
26 Post contains images Goose : Not only does the Federal government choke the whole airline industry with obscene taxes (of which AC is the conduit for the lions share) but they hav
27 Canadi>nBoy : Hmmmm, my vote still is tied for either Rene Simard or Ginette Reno International Airport.
28 BO__einG : Interesting topic. Canada does have a nice number of airports named after political icons. PET would be an appropriate name for Montreal's Dorval. For
29 AC320 : for all you nay-sayers it could be worse. Imagine changing Pearson to Mel Lastman International.... or Chretien International, hey the old guy might a
30 BOEING747-700 : You can call it hog town int airport for all I care, as long as it works and gets me to where I am going to go, I could care less what the f-ck it is
31 Post contains images OzarkD9S : Well, being an American it might not be my place to say BUT: welcome to the BS of Politics! We now have Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Geo
32 Post contains images Caribb : Well I'm ok with it. He was a well known world Leader, dynamic and focused something few of our politicans have been since. I didn't agree with everyt
33 Hmmmm... : According to local Montreal papers the name will stay with Montreal's Airport even if flights eventually return to Mirabel which in turn will become P
34 Qb001 : Maybe to clarify Caribb's point: The name PET is now imposed to YUL. If ever YUL is shut down and flights transferred to YMX (an hypothesis that's aro
35 Caribb : To clarify Qb001's clarification of my post... The Airport code PET will never be used. YUL will always remain the airport code for Montreal. IF fligh
36 Post contains images C172Akula : I second Bo's motion for YYC. "Ralph Klein International", after all he was our Mayor before becoming Premier. Or how about "King Ralph International"
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