Rkmcswain From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5279 times:
Ok, we have the thread on airports with most 747 service.
How about the largest U.S. airport with the LEAST AMOUNT of 747 service.
I would start with IAH.
In terms of traffic, they are ranked what?, 9th, 10th, 11th? Something like that? I have seen the daily KLM flight to/from AMS a few times, but that's about it. Obviously JFK, LAX, and ORD see a lot, what about ATL and DFW?
Bobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5026 times:
DFW FOR SURE......like jr said, there are NO scheduled passanger flights into DFW. Use to have AA with the SP back in the 80s, Braniff, Korean Air flew the 744 until they got the 777 they flight that in now. BA uses the 777 now instead of the 744, back when they had the DC-10 i saw that sitting at the gate a few times. LH now flyes the A340 but once flew the 744 for a short time.
DEN gets the United 744 sometimes
ATL gets Air France, South African
DFW......NOW ONE, DFW's not great for spotting unless u love MD-80's. When i lived there i use to to watch all the time, but would only go to see the BA 777 and the LH A340 now that i live by ORD i see things like this every 15 minutes. No need to spot at DFW anymore..
ARCJET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4878 times:
The 747 has always been the stranger at ATL along with the DC-10. If you went to ATL in 1978 you would only see L-1011s from Delta and Eastern. Delta ended 747 ops on April 23, 1977 and sold the fleet. Sabena did start 747 service to ATL in April 1978 to be the first airline from Europe. ATL was great if you were a salesman for Lockheed. The Northwest DC-10s certainly stood out back in '78 when they were on the ramp. Oddly, Delta had DC-10s from 1972 to 1975 until the L-100s arrived.
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4137 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4713 times:
Obviously I am joking about DAL.
I do know for sure that BA uses 777s into ATL, not 747s. Before that, BA used DC-10s on that route, so no 747s.
I am not sure about FLL. I do know that FLL is 'stealing' some of the international carriers away from MIA with lower taxes, arguably better facilities. I wouldn't be surprised if FLL has one or two 747s on weekly or twice-weekly routes from African countries.
What about LAS? I only know of Virgin's 747 service that is once or twice a week.
Airplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4686 times:
Flairport, you are right. Air France does not send 747s to ATL. Although they have in the past, they currently have two daily flights with 777s. British Airways flies to ATL from LGW with one flight a day on a 777. South African Airways sends a 744 six days per week. Korean Air used to fly a 744 when the routing was ICN-DFW-ATL-DFW-ICN, then switched it to a 777 when separate nonstop flights were given to each destination, but back in May I think they switched the ATL service back to a 744. I do not think it was ever a 744 after the switch to nonstop from ICN but before the recent switch to a 744.
All that summed up leaves ATL with 747s from two airlines, nine times per week. Here it is:
-SAA 744 six times per week from JNB/CPT/SID
-KE 744 three times per week from ICN
Rkmcswain From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 222 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4384 times:
Gigneil has the right terminology....
"ratio of 747s to total operations"
Pass vs. Freight, doesn't matter.
Sounds like a tie between DFW and ATL, unless someone has numbers to back one of the other. No way on DEN, LGA, SEA, BOS - read to topic again - "Largest U.S. Airport..." - since ATL and DFW (along with ORD) can all be considered #1 in some form of ranking - then everyone else is out if one of those three are in the race.
BTW - the only BA aircraft I see at IAH regularly are the 777's. That's not to say they DO NOT fly a 747 here, but I have not seen it if they do.
Lear777 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 290 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4296 times:
Keep in mind Denver does get a daily Lufthansa 747-400, at least for the time being. United has on again off again 747 service through here (currently off, I believe), but there's always the possibility of finding a 744 flying IAD/LAX/ORD/SFO-DEN. British Airways has also flown in 744s in the recent past, I imagine we will likely see that again as well.
Both DFW and ATL get a decent amount of cargo 747s, and ATL does get the SAA bird.
IAH is certainly at a low point for 747 services, but hardly goes without. We get a daily KLM 747-400. On the cargo side, we get Air France Cargo and Cargolux 747-400Fs. If you count VIP 747s, we got a lot of those.
In the past we've had National, Pan Am, Alia Jordanian, Air France, NW Cargo, Martinair Cargo (now an MD-11), Lufthansa, etc.
British Airways doesn't currently fly 744s here, but count on a 747 when/if LHR-IAH ever becomes a reality. That I am sure about. Lufthansa had a 744 scheduled for FRA-IAH for November '03-March '04 for a short while, but this has since been nixed for regular A343s. Wouldn't be surprised if it cropped up again though.
25 Rkmcswain: I guess I should clarify once more. Largest U.S. airport was meant to mean Most Flights -or- Most Passengers - not largest land area. Isn't DEN closed
26 United_Fan: LAS gets VS & JAL 747's , though not daily. MIA gets them from LH,BA,Aerolinas Argentina & Iberia. Plus freighters of Atlas .
27 OzarkD9S: STL gets nothing in the way of 747's these days.
28 Gigneil: Isn't DEN closed anyway? That's quite like saying HKG is closed. Denver - Stapleton International is closed, and Hong Kong - Kai Tak International is
29 MSYtristar: No 747's to MSY, not even cargo. We get the occassional 747 charter (Air Atlanta Iceland, Virgin 744 this January from London), but that's pretty much
30 IMissPiedmont: Well PHX has no 747 service today and is, I believe, the sixth busiest airport in the US.
31 Usairways85: How about PHL??? It only has a daily BA 744 and maybe a few UPS 747's here and there.
32 ATCT: KPIT doesnt have any 74's (in the early 90's we had BA 741's). Also i dont believe CVG has 74 service. DCA, LGA, SLC, CLE, i think FLL, PDX, STL, OKC