StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3155 times:
As Ahhhhnold might say...Hasta la vista...baby! Gone, just like their short-lived BOS-LHR. All part of UA's restructuring on their way back to profitability. They do operate JFK-LHR amidst heavy competition.
Not sure who else flies EWR-LHR...AA? Virgin? British? EWR-IAD isn't far, but it's out of your way, I understand.
Kempa From Brazil, joined Aug 2003, 372 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
I am pretty happy with UA's restructuring of routes. I had long ago written to them asking for an IAD-GRU flight, a route that I travel rather frequently. It certainly didn't make sense to have their JFK-GRU daily, when their partner RG has the same route. I was fed up with having to take IAD-JFK-GRU or IAD-MIA-GRU on UA, or DCA-ATL-GRU on DL. They started IAD-GRU last October, and I will be flying it for the third time this October. I can leave work by 5PM, go home, have dinner, then go to IAD. On my return, I can come straight from IAD to work, without wasting time. I could never do that with the connection flights.
If they have JFK-LHR, it really doesn't make sense to fly EWR-LHR. I still think that New Yorkers should have better mass transportation to their airports, though.
MEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1092 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2756 times:
Good idea. The premium cabins on the 777 were usually booked only half full most times I checked the loads. It was actually an easy way of getting an upgrade as a non-rev if you wanted it across the atlantic (as opposed to flying JFK-LHR and IAD-LHR which tend to be more heavily booked in F/C class).
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16564 posts, RR: 52 Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2740 times:
"If they have JFK-LHR, it really doesn't make sense to fly EWR-LHR."
Your assuming the flight catered to NY'ers, Northern New Jersey's population is almost 7 Million. New Jersey is also the wealthiest State in the Nation, and home to many large corporations like Johnson & Johnson, At&t, Lucent, Merck, Phizer etc.
And JFK is not conveinent to New Jersey residents, remember only about 12-16% of EWR's travelers are heading to or from NY. They are almost all New Jersey travelers.
Many large international airlines such as Lufthansa, British Airways, Air France, Alitalia, Singapore, CSA, Lot Polish, Swiss, Air India etc serve both EWR and JFK.
Tap Air Portugal , Malaysian Airlines, SAS, EVA airways etc serve EWR only.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16564 posts, RR: 52 Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2539 times:
If UAL "really" wants to survive they should make business decisions for many reasons except.. Prestige or pride.
Flying a route like JFK-LHR for prestige or pride is not going to get them out of CH11.
CO dropped their flights to New Zealand, Australia and closed the Denver hub to return to profitability.
And they are much better for it, even though they had a long history in Denver going back to their first postal rooute (Denver-El Paso). Plus they were instrumental in getting the new DIA built, they got the best location (A) at the new airport only to give it up and concentrate on EWR and IAH.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16564 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
"I didn't know we were the wealthiest state in the nation!"
We've taken taken that crown from Connecticut about 5-6 years ago, Connecticuts economy has been going down hill for a while. I don't think I need to tell you that New Jersey is booming, look at all the construction. New Jersey weathered the economic slow down/recession better than any other State..
The top three wealthiest States are..
1.) New Jersey
The reason that they are the wealthiest and not say NY or California is the large amount of large coporations and jobs in comparison to the population, plus New Jersey, Connecticut and Maryland do not have large Cities that require lots of funding.
But New Jersey , Connecticut and Maryland benefit from being close to jobs in large cities that are not within their State.
Lots of New Jersey residents commute to NYC and Phildadelphia
Connecticut residents commute to Boston and NYC
Maryland residents commute to Washington DC
The States get the economic advantages of these large Cities, without being burdened with their taxes, costs, poverty, crime etc.
That's why NYC has been trying to restore the "commuter" tax on New Jersey residents who work in NYC, they have a point.