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US Airways B734 Scrapped...  
User currently offlineAlexG From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 95 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2279 times:


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Is anybody in the know why N411US and N415US are going to be scrapped (and not STD or sold) after only 14 years in service?

No buyer in sight?

Or too much hours/cycles (shouldn't be more than any other domestic short-hop 737)?!?

Any other reason?

Just wondering....


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

The owner of the airframes has done some smart accounting; the profit remaining after the unpredictable revenue (both in price and time; remember 10 million now is worth more then 11 million in 2 years) minus the costs of keeping them stored for a yet unpredictable time plus doing an extensive overhaul was in this case less then scrapping them and selling the parts. On this moment the market for the 737-400 is particularly slow; US Airways ditches some, the European charter operators for whom the 737-400 was particularly popular, like Futura, Hapag Lloyd and so, also replace them already. The -300 series for instance remains more popular by LCC start ups, who can fly these with 149Y and 3 cabincrew, while the -400 hasn't got a staunch growing airline supporting it now.


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User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

It might be cheaper to scrap them than to pin your hopes on selling them. Few people are looking to start up right now, it seems....

On a sort-of related note, US Airways has a number of DHC Dash-8s hanging around in YYC.... they've been there for more than a year. What they're doing there, I don't know... they seem to move around the airport premises from time to time....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineIslandHopper From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 327 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Wow...these are the first pictures of the breakup of the USAir 737s. There are three -400s and one -300 (built in 1989!) to be scrapped yet. Sad pictures. We've discussed the "why's" in previous threads, just search for them.



User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

The ones I saw im IGM last month were flown to France to be srapped.I just can't belive 14 year old planes are being srapped........


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Seems such a waste when there are far older and inefficient aircraft still out there earning a living.

These aircraft are not at the end of their lives in the normal sense (ie too many hours on the clock), they are victims of the current marketplace in that there are not enough operators wanting to add 734's to their fleet at present.

No fault of the aircraft at all. It does seems strange seeing such a young aircraft being readied for scrapping! Very sad!

The way things are going I'd buy a 734 myself and put in my back garden if I could get away with it!



Like a fine wine, one gets better with age.
User currently offlineAlexG From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Thanks for your replies.

Islandhopper, with the forum search currently being defunct, I could not find any older discussions, sorry.

Working in mechanical engineering, I SHOULD see those US Air 737s as simply some alloy constructions, but no go -- it really hurts to see those young birds being broken up.

BTW, my 500$ car is four years older than those multi-million-US Air 737s, and though there's some need for a more or less expensive D-check building up on the horizon, scrapping is still not an option. Ok, not a fair comparison, but indeed a strange one.  Big grin

Let's hope there's some sort of heaven for airliners...  Innocent

G'night ev'rybody!  Sleepy


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Very sad pics indeed. As I said earlier, N415US appears on the Airliner World 2003 Year Planner which I have on my wall so it is very sad to think that it is being scrapped! So, the planner would go on the rest of the year with a featured plane no longer in existence!

Meanwhile DC3s continue to soldier on worldwide...

TrintoCan.



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Another point. There are a number of fine photos from that airfield showing NW, CO and FedEx planes being scrapped - and none of them has any airline identifier (title or logo) visible - they're all de-identified. Yet all the US planes being scrapped have the titles and logos intact (at least for now). Does US care about its image? It says something when you cannot even be bothered to take your name off a plane being scrapped - ie ultimately the name is being associated with garbage.

TrintoCan.



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User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Does US care about its image?

I think it had a lot to do with planes abruptly returned to the lessors as US filed bankruptcy. Many aircraft were parked and then never returned to US's control.

Steve


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5056 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

thanks for the comments guys!

I heard that they got the US 73s back in April but I went down there on 8/15 mainly for the CO DC10. The 73s had been stored in Mojave last September.

They are worth more in parts than just selling them to operate. These a/c were delivered in 1988 so they are not that old. And from what I saw a couple of them are pretty well stripped out of good parts and ready for the Crusher.

As for the painting out of the titles, I dont know why they didnt do it. The folks at USAir might not be too happy about people seeing their ex-planes in that condition, who knows. The Memphis Group has two MEA A310s which I uploaded pics of, and let me tell you those planes are so clean it is like they are brand new. It almost looks like they gave the whole thing a coat of white. Looking at the landing gear, struts, and bay doors, all the parts are very clean and pristine condition. I have a pic of the maingear over on jetphotos (it was badmotiv here) but the USAir 737s were quite filthy underneath.


bruce



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