AeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1712 times:
I'm going to be going back to Australia for christmas, and I'm thinking of doing it on SAA, as they offer the shortest routing from JFK. Anyone have any experience with them long-haul? Decent seat pitch in coach? (Will be flying 744s and 743s, if that helps...) Will I arrive in Perth ready to kill myself, or feeling refreshed? Any input, positive or negative, is welcome.
N863DA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 48 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
I flew the ATL-PER trip about two or three years ago.
Let me tell you... once you reach Jo'burg and you have a long layover... and then another ten hour flight... you'll be ready to just about KILL yourself.
I was in Business Class... and it was truly the most daunting challenge to just get back on the airplane in Jo'burg. Of course, I did it and had a great time in Oz.
It is a LONG flight... but just be prepared to fly for 16-18hrs non-stop and then the hop from CPT-JNB (one-stop on the way back, via Sal Island), in addition to a six or so hour layover, and then another 12hrs (door to door) to Perth, and you should be fine....
Wipe it out in your mind and you'll do fine... it's ALL psychological.
It's no picnic, but it's better than traversing two entire continents AND a huge ocean.
Copaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
i would take this route... it seems it would be shorter than the kangaroo route to SYD, and then across the continent again...shorter than taking qantas via lax and syd too...i would take this if i were going to PER
Ansett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1526 times:
Your routing might be a bit long - JFK to Joburg is about 16 hours, then say 4 hours layover, followed by a 10 hour perth flight - thats 30 hours.
JFK to LAX is about 6, pluys 2 hour layover, plus 14 hours to Syd, plus 2 hour layover, plus 4 hours to Perth is 28 if you get good connection times. PLus you dont have 2 long haul flights- you'll have 2 medium and one long haul.
Although I rate SAA much higher than QF or UA, I don't know which option I'd choose. I reckon QF's IFE would be better now... with PTVs. but the Food and Service on SAA I always find fantastic. Also their seat pitch used to be 34" which I think has now been standardised to 33 or 32" on the 744's - Does anyone know?
I haven't flown SAA for a few years now, but used to fly them very regularly in the late 90's. They were super.... (compared to QF) but average (compared to SQ).
AeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1495 times:
ConcordeBoy, you're a little off the mark. JFK-JNB-PER is definitely shorter than JFK-LAX-SYD-PER. Total travel time via JNB is 26hr 25min with connections. (It's only 2 hours in JoBerg.) Total time with QF/AA is 30:25. So, while mileage-wise it may be shorter (I haven't looked yet) it is definitely quicker through JNB. I've done this (NYC-PER) through LAX/SYD before, as well as LHR/SIN, and YVR/HKG. The routing through JNB is defintely the shortest, and the only option to have only one-stop and stay on the same airline. (Yes, I know, SAA stops at SID on the way back, but you can't always win.) Anyway, if anyone finds anything shorter/cheaper, do let me know!
Nickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1472 times:
Have you looked into EWR - DXB on MH (very cheap fares on their web-site at the moment - about $400r/t) and then DXB - PER on EH? That would be one-stop in both directions. EH prices out at $800 online, but you should be able to get something cheaper.